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To: AnotherUnixGeek

"Have you? If not, what qualifies you to judge her conduct as anything other than savage?"

Uhm, no. That's why I didn't judge her. I said that I hadn't been through it so I couldn't say that she was a savage for doing it. It's just interesting to me that someone who didn't live at that time and has no idea what she went through would stand up and say how they are so much better than her.

"The Indians who murdered her child were probably honored by their people at the time as well. So?"

Wow. The point is easily lost on you. I know that public school has tried to instill the idea that all cultures are equally good but it's not true.

The settlers of that time would have had similar values to ours, whereas these Indians would not have. This is seen in a cursory reading of history of that time period. That's why the opinion of the settlers is significant to us and the opinion of the Indians is not. We have much in common with the settlers and not much in common with Indian tribes like this one, although there were other tribes which had values closer to ours.


141 posted on 08/29/2006 2:27:26 PM PDT by webstersII
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To: webstersII
Uhm, no. That's why I didn't judge her. I said that I hadn't been through it so I couldn't say that she was a savage for doing it.

By saying so, you've made a judgement excusing her actions by saying that circumstances could arise in which the sadistic mutilation of human beings is justified and that hers may have been such a circumstance.

Wow. The point is easily lost on you.

I'm afraid I'd have to say the point has rather been lost by you, since you don't address it.

The settlers of that time would have had similar values to ours, whereas these Indians would not have.

If the values of the settlers of that time included approval of deliberate, unnecessary mutilation of enemies, the settlers were as savage as the Indians. Such values are not similar to mine, nor to those of most other people. It can be argued that it took a level of savagery and uncivilized behavior to tame this continent, and I won't argue with that. Attempting to portray such acts as somehow better than that of the Indians is illogical and ethically weak, however.
143 posted on 08/29/2006 2:52:02 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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