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To: xzins; MizSterious

If the egg is fertilized, it IS an abortion.

I don't think that is technically accurate. I've read that many times an egg is fertilized and it doesn't implant or they implant in a fallopian tube. Neither of those is considered an abortion.

We're probably just talking technicalities.


Parallel logic: Many times a person will be involved in a car wreck, and as a result of injuries sustained, die. Many times a person will contract a deadly disease, and as a result, die. Many times a person, while hiking through the woods, will be bitten by a venomous snake, and as a result, die.

Therefore, it is not "murder" when someone plants the blade of a pick-axe in another person's skull.

Hint: The outcome -- or even the cause -- are not the determining factors.

It's the intent that matters.

Did "Person A" intend to "terminate" the life of "Person B"?

That's all that matters.

If you want to go "talking technicalities", then it comes down to things like "murder" versus "manslaughter" and such like. But so far as I am aware, the fact that people die in car wrecks has never been used successfully as an affirmative defense to a charge of murder (i.e., "Yes, Your Honor, my client certainly did shoot the victim -- however, in light of the staggering number of automobile fatalities, it's a tragic waste of the court's time to go hounding my client over these 'technicalities.'")

130 posted on 08/25/2006 2:15:24 AM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: Don Joe
I don't mind talking murder, manslaughter, etc. I think they are extremely viable categories when dealing with abortion.

However, if it is TRUE that many eggs are fertilized, but simply do not implant based on the location in the body at which they were fertilized, then we cannot say that the body itself has an "abortion" when this fertilized egg passes through the system without becoming a viable human life.

If that information is not TRUE then we have a different set of facts and must adjust accordingly, but at this point that is what the textbooks do say about fertilized eggs.

Therefore, it is improper to say "if the egg is fertilized, then it IS an abortion."

If one aborts a mission, then that mission must already have started. If one "aborts" pregnancy, then that pregnancy must already have happened.

For the record, I totally oppose abortion. In the case of abortion brought about by violent rape, I like your categories, and I would consider it homicide, and it would not be by accident, but by some lower level of self-preservation. I would be careful to categorize it as homicide, but I would not have a penalty attached in that particular case.

132 posted on 08/25/2006 5:37:43 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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