Posted on 08/24/2006 1:09:09 AM PDT by Stoat
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Some thoughts:
***I wonder how many "copy-cat" crimes this will inspire? He would have completely gotten away with it if he hadn't (perhaps intentionally?) slacked off (maybe trying to see if his "love" would remain by his side, and if she wouldn't then life wasn't worth living any longer).
***Those tracking chips can also be detected and (painfully) removed, by the way. Unless I'm mistaken. Folks have considered them for use in Latin American countries where kidnappings of adults for hefty ransomes are so high.
***I probably should have said she'd likely not opt for a life of solitude (as opposed to "anonymity"). And it wouldn't be long before some "friend" sold her out to a journalist who would take photos / videos, if for nothing else than to get notoriety online.
***Emotional strength doesn't necessarily translate into the kind of business acumen that's needed to earn a living nowadays. But like you, I hope she'll make it somehow. I think television movie right sales would be a good thing for them to consider focusing on right now though...as the thought of how this sort of crime is potentially going undetected caused me to lose a considerable amount of sleep last night. This is all so disturbing. Hopefully increased awareness of this sort of problem can help us somehow figure out how to reduce it? Breaking up child pornography rings seems far more worthy of our scarce law enforcement resources after learning of this woman's horrifying case.
***I hope they're POSITIVE that the culprit is the one who committed suicide on the train tracks. Or could it be that the law enforcement officials substituted in a cadaver to keep the heat off of them for letting him get away? If the body's completely mauled, how can one make a positive i.d. without a DNA sample of the true culprit (which I doubt they have)?
***I had mistakenly thought that Silence of the Lambs krap didn't really happen in real life because those who are "clever" enough to be able to "achieve" this sort of thing successfully for so long (8 years) wouldn't really opt to do it. We could have similar victims within miles of us without ever knowing it...
I'm not sure that BMW's cost that much over where they're made (Germany but possibley in neighboring Austria too). No tariffs, no transportation fees, a bigger economy of scale, little need to adverti$e, etcetera....
This thread is as good a place as any to mention The Discovery Channel's
"Most Evil" series.
It is NOT for the squeamish. It is NOT for children.
There are some disturbing (suggestive, not graphic) images, and
subject matter is frankly discussed.
But it's an unflinching look at killers, including commentary and
interviews with the monsters by forensic psychiatrist Michael Stone.
Current physiological studies (e.g., PET Scans) that
give indications of neurological bases for murderous tendencies
are also discussed.
(I'm afraid liberals will interpret the studies as an excuse for killers...
NOT ME!)
I think the series (about 6 episodes?) is beginning a re-airing Thursday
at 10PM Eastern on The Discovery Channel.
Kidnapped girl kept diary during her 8-year ordeal - World - Times Online
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Thank you very much for the information about the Most Evil series...it sounds very interesting!
Even though I don't get cable TV at the stoat cave (Tv's leftist spin makes me ill) I iwill look into seeing it.
Thank you!
There's a news video available on the left column of this page:
http://edition.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/08/27/austria.kidnap.ap/
FYI I was able to score a copy of an episode of the Most Evil series today and I've just finished watching it. If all episodes are as excellent as the one I saw I would want to recommend it to any mature adult.
The episode that I saw was on Vlad the Impaler (Dracula) and it was utterly spellbinding, in that it brought me a tremendously greater understanding of Vlad than I had had before. I hadn't been aware that Vlad had learned about impalement from the Ottoman Turks (ISLAM) and the circumstances of the times 'almost' justified what he did during his reign. His kingdom was under seige from two sides, and he needed an effective method of maintaining order and of gaining loyalty from his subjects, and also of defending his (Christian) kingdom against vastly superior (MUSLIM) armies.
Highly recommended, and thanks again for the GREAT recommendation!
Good video, thank you :-)
I was on vacation and saw this, in a French newspaper.
Thank God she's back home. I think at this point all we can do is second your thoughts (she does have a lifetime of healing ahead).
I can't imagine.
Thank you for posting this--my first thought, when I saw this on the news in Quebec, was, "some Freeper will post this and I wonder what they'll say."
Well, this should be interesting. Extremely so. Thank God she had the presence of mind to get out of there.
BTW, I love your tagline. We think along the same lines, LOL!
Condi, being the Commish is nowhere near as interesting as being the Prez. :) LOL! We just gotta talk her into it. ;)
Are her parents being insensitive? Feel free to read this new article:
http://edition.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/08/27/austria.kidnap.ap/
Such an amazing, life-affirming sense of relief she must be feeling....perhaps only the sort of feeling shared by prisoners of war....a very long war. I think that some Vietnam-era vets were held for around that length of time....wasn't John McCain held in a camp for seven years?
Even so, it would be far different for a little girl, being snatched away from her home and family like that. I hope that she can be protected from the inevitable media frenzy.....even without all of the other trauma, that alone would be enough to send me over the edge!
Thank you for posting this
You're quite welcome! Please feel free to add any updates or comments that you might care to....my hope is to make this a 'one-stop-update' location that people can go to if they want to learn about this story from the start and onward.
BTW, I love your tagline. We think along the same lines, LOL!
Thank you very much for your kind words :-)
Since it becomes more probable every day that the Left will try to run Hillary in 08, I think that Dr. Rice could not only beat her handily, but she would wipe the floor with Hillary. It would be a landslide. Having Miss Coulter riding shotgun would help to keep the press in a tizzy (always a fun thing) and she would be an insurance policy for Conservatives, in the event Condi ever got wobbly on any core principles or issues, Ann could have a nice sit-down with Dr. Rice and remind her of the important things, if they ever got murky.
I admit that it's a 'dream ticket', but we all have our dreams, don't we? :-)
Condi, being the Commish is nowhere near as interesting as being the Prez. :) LOL! We just gotta talk her into it. ;)
hehehe! I'm hoping that we can....I would be SO PROUD, having her as my President...I would feel ten feet tall.
Natasha has written her father a note asking to be left alone, and he is responding by complaining to the media about this personal decision of hers.
By the way, she will be nearly a millionaire now, at least before taxes:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,13509-2332062,00.html
At the risk of my seeming unintentionally insensitive, I cynically ask if it's surprising that her parents are suddenly taking more of an interest in her than she recalls that they did back in the days of constant domestic squabbling prior to their divorce? Natasha has said she wants to tour the United Kingdom with her step sister, but is nevertheless refusing to be reunited with her parents anytime soon. Hmmmm...
Notice how the father, a baker, wanted pictures with her "for the family's sake"? The police turned down his request, knowing about media sales rights and his possible thirst for the limelight at his daughter's expense. And the mother wants her to live with her, just as others in the world want wealthy tenants. Hopefully there's some genuine parental love involved on their part, but I have unfortunately seen examples not altogether unlike this one where love was the farthest from being the motivation for such sudden parental "interest".
I hope the parents stop pressuring her, unless they want to risk looking like relatives of Elian Gonzalez who didn't care about Elian until doing so could make them famous (especially among anti-Castro circles). Again, if I'm being overly insensitive then I scold myself but I cannot help but feel irritated at how insensitively the parents are behaving. Yes they need her but they also owe her...and at the very least should want what's best for her (and at 18.5 years old, she likely knows best what she wants). I doubt she wants someone like Shaquille ONeal's long lost father who suddenly showed up with avid interest after he had money. Shaq wanted no part of him but at least he knew better than to whine to the media. Yes the situations are distinguishable in that the parents reportedly didn't abandon their daughter but I have a difficult time believing that amidst their domestic squabbling they showed as much love for her that they would now claim to have showed. Who remembers best? Natasha. And she wrote at least one parent (who sought photographs) a nice note asking to be left ALONE.
Thanks for the info on that particular episode of "Most Evil".
That's the episode I missed and will be sure to catch a re-broadcast
(if they actually show it again).
I'm just glad the show didn't hit too hard for you. The series is
surely too unsettling for even some adults.
Wolfgang P
Wolfgang Puck... That sucks...
Kidnapped girl gives details about her ordeal - World - Times Online
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Translation of Natascha Kampusch's letter - World - Times Online
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Great letter. But that mostly unemployed IT professional clearly had WAY too much time on his hands...
Sex slave 'pregnant by kidnapper' the Daily Mail
The girl held for eight years as a sex slave in a tiny cellar in Vienna, is pregnant by her captor, it was claimed today.
Natascha Kampusch, now 18, escaped the clutches of pervert Wolfgang Priklopil last Wednesday, but now according to German newspaper reports, it is feared she is carrying his child.
More here...
How Stockholm Syndrome kept sex slave spellbound by her attacker
Read Natascha Kampusch's letter to the media in full
Austrian police hunt for kidnapper's accomplice
Sex slave teen had 'severe Stockholm Syndrome'
The Berliner Zeitung paper said it had been told by a reliable source that that she was expecting a baby by Priklopil.
But a police spokesman from the Austrian National Criminal Agency refused to confirm or deny the story.
The reports of her pregnancy follows a statement, released by Natascha in which she said she mourned the death of Priklopil, who threw himself under a train after she escaped.
She said: "He has been a big part of my life, and as a result I do feel I am in a sort of mourning for him."
The statement, read out by one of the team of psychologists and psychiatrists who are treating Natascha, seemed to confirm that she is suffering from Stockholm Syndrome - the condition in which kidnap or hostage victims empathise with their captors and often end up working alongside them.
Locked underground or doing housework year after year for Priklopil, Natascha, who is said to be pale and to weigh less than she did as a 10-year-old, says she does not feel she missed out on life.
In some ways she even benefitted from her captivity, she suggests, because she was not tempted to smoke or drink, or mix with the wrong friends.
Natascha, who police sources have said was treated as a sex slave, also makes it clear that she will not discuss any intimate details of her long relationship with the 44-year-old telephone technician - not even with her doctors.
She said: "Everyone wants to ask me intimate questions, but that's nobody's business.
"Maybe I'll tell a therapist one day or someone else when I feel the need to. Or maybe never. The intimacy only belongs to me."
Police also revealed that one thing that kept Natascha's spirits up during her long captivity were comedy videos of Rowan Atkinson as Mr Bean.
They found stacks of them in her tiny prison, and Natascha says one of the first things she wants is to go on holiday in Britain with her half-sister.
Police are still combing Priklopil's house in a Vienna suburb, looking for any other hidden chambers. They said Natascha's cramped dungeon was taking a long time to search because it was so small.
Natascha finally solved one of Austria's greatest crime mysteries when she escaped from the house last Wednesday. Priklopil was guarding her as she vacuumed his car, but she saw the opportunity to run when he turned his back and walked away from her to talk on his cellphone.
She said: 'That was my chance, I dropped the vacuum cleaner and left it running.'
Police were called when she was found cowering in a neighbour's garden.
In the statement, read by forensic psychiatrist Max Friedrich, Natascha denied ever calling Priklopil her master, even though she said the unmarried loner wanted her to. She said she thought he was not really serious about it.
The statement said: 'He was not my master. I was just as strong as him.'
She also revealed that while he sometimes treated her very well, there were other times when he did not.
Confusingly she said: 'He would, symbolically speaking, sometimes be my support and sometimes be the person who kicked me. But with me he had picked the wrong person, and we both knew that.'
It was unclear if she meant he had literally kicked her.
Natascha says she and Priklopil furnished the windowless cell she refers to as 'my room' together.
The tiny, cramped room contained a toilet, washbasin, radio and TV. It was cluttered with books and clothes and there was barely room for her to stand beneath the bed built up on a platform.
Natascha is highly protective of her room. Apparently referring to photos of it released by police, she says: 'My room was equipped with everything I would need and I made it my home, and it was not meant to be shown to the public.'
During her captivity, Natascha was helped with reading, writing and arithmetic. But she is physically weak because she survived mostly on tinned and frozen foods and very little fruit or vegetables.
Pictures of her being helped under a blanket from a police station to the hospital where she is now being cared for show skinny white legs covered with red and purple blotches.
Detectives have been trying to determine whether the kidnapper had an accomplice. When Natascha was snatched, a 12-year-old girl said she saw two men drag her into a white van.
But Natascha said: 'He carried out the kidnapping by himself. Everything was already prepared.'
Life as a kidnap victim was humdrum. She says: 'My daily life: This was carefully regulated, mostly it started with a joint breakfast - he was anyway not working most of the time. There was housework, reading, television, talking, cooking. That's all there was, year in and year out, and always tied in with the fear of being lonely.'
Dr Friedrich said Natascha has been seriously traumatised and will take a long time to recover. Her medical team will be treating her for at least a year.
As an 18-year-old she is free to make her own decisions, but she is being helped by social workers at a secure location. But Natascha said she feels 'a little bit too much controlled.'
Natascha also says she sympathises with Priklopil's mother.
She said: "I feel sympathy for Wolfgang's mother. I can put myself in her position and I feel with her and understand. We are both thinking of him.'
But she made clear that it has been her decision not to see either of her own parents, and to only speak to them on the phone.
Police believe she may have been running away from home at the time of the kidnapping because her mother and father were having a row. Their marriage ended in bitter divorce, each blaming the other for her disappearance.
The name Stockholm Syndrome comes from a four-day bank siege in 1973 when Swedish bank staff ended up defending their captors.
Austrian police spokesman Erich Zwettler said: 'Natascha's medical team have confirmed she is suffering from a severe case of Stockholm Syndrome.'
Child psychiatrist Dr Ernst Berger, a member of the team treating Natascha, said: 'After so long with her kidnapper she is showing strong indications of Stockholm Syndrome. Physically she is also very weak because of her poor a diet.'
Dr Reinhard Haller, another psychiatrist on the team, said: 'Natascha seems to have a strong personality and that will help her, but it will be a long time before she ever fully trusts anyone again. Scars will remain, but hopefully no open wounds. Whatever happens it will be a long process.'
One of his colleagues said: 'Natascha left the world we know as a child and has returned to it as a traumatised young woman. It will take a long time to get over that.
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