Posted on 08/23/2006 12:56:41 PM PDT by El Oviedo
Will the West defend itself?
Does the United States have the power to eliminate terrorists and the states that support them? In terms of capacity, as opposed to will, the answer is a clear yes.
Think about it. Currently, the U.S. has an arsenal of 18 Ohio class submarines. Just one submarine is loaded with 24 Trident nuclear missiles. Each Trident missile has eight nuclear warheads capable of being independently targeted. That means the U.S. alone has the capacity to wipe out Iran, Syria or any other state that supports terrorist groups or engages in terrorism -- without risking the life of a single soldier.
Terrorist supporters know we have this capacity, but because of worldwide public opinion, which often appears to be on their side, coupled with our weak will, we'll never use it.
Today's Americans are vastly different from those of my generation who fought the life-and-death struggle of World War II. Any attempt to annihilate our Middle East enemies would create all sorts of handwringing about the innocent lives lost, so-called collateral damage.
Such an argument would have fallen on deaf ears during World War II when we firebombed cities in Germany and Japan. The loss of lives through saturation bombing far exceeded those lost through the dropping of atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
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Look what happened to North Korea with Carter and Clinton awarding them the means to create the bomb. They were foolishly mesmerized by North Korea's hocus pocus. North Korea is now in the verge of creating the bomb and South Korea is begging them not to test it.. Yet, Americans are so silent and forgetful about this, the silence is deafening. I wonder if Carter and Clinton feel any regret for what they accomplished that is now threatening the lives of their fellow Americans.
Their suppressed silence have caused their fellow liberals to extol their treacherous deeds, as if, it is acceptable to help your enemy create a weapon to kill you.
Apparently not, since that Nobel Prize ex-President is still evangelizing his impaired peace approach.
Don't you not agree that if the US bombed Iran when they captured the US embassy that the twin towers tragedy would not have happened?
Because of Carter's cowardly inaction, Khomeini and his mullahs had viewed America is a weakling. Carter wanted to talk, apologizingly even lifting the ban he had imposed during the revolutionary turmoil on arms exports to Iran. Khomeini didn't listen. The most powerful person in the world being ignored. Ouch..........that hurts.
Over the years Iran created the Hesbollah , Iran's foreign legion.
This is a strong reason why one should not elect a liberal. They are all the same. Look at their last presidential candidate. He wanted security problems to be solved by the United Nations enforced by the troops from Bangladesh. That's a joke. Republican candidates should use this to unseat or not to elect Liberals, by their unwillingness to fight terrorists. If liberals have long tails, their tails would be between their legs all the time.
Iran wants to imitate and follow North Korea, knowing for well that half of us (Americans) are "Useful idiots" which will believe and do anything they say.
Those who have been in the Middle East, Iran in particular, have learned about the story of the camel and scorpion. The US and the West represent the camel and the rest of the Middle East is the scorpion.
(The story goes - the Scorpion begs the camel to ride on his back so it can go to the other side of the river. The camel initially refused because of the scorpion's poisonous sting. But the scorpion begged the camel asking for pity 'cause he does not know how to swim or else he will drown. The camel, through the goodness of his heart, relented and in the middle of the river the scorpion stung the camel and the camel asked the scorpion, "Why did you do that?" The scorpion laughed and said, "This is the Middle East.")
Look at Fox News reporters Centani and Wiig. They volunteered to go to Palestine to broadcast the feelings of Hamas and the Palestinian people to the entire world. They ended being kidnapped by the same people they are trying to help. Now the kidnappers demand that all moslems in all American controlled jails be freed.
Today, Iran says, "Let's talk."
Remember, it's the scorpion talking.
P. S.
During World War II, at the Battle of Bessang Pass, I met a captured Japanese soldier, who was born in Los Angeles. As we talked I asked him who is a better soldier the American or the Japanese. His reply was "Japanese are jungle fighters, but Americans remove jungle."
One can apply this maxim today by saying - we can remove anything that the terrorists have if we have the guts to win.
All these neat toys we have are a waste of money. They'll never be used. The majority of the civilian population in this country has lost its will to fight. IMOHO
"suppressed silence"
Now, that's just doubletalk. ;)
Will we ever have the guts to deal with our own domestic enemies?
I doubt it.
In my opinion -- no. Bin Laden and Iran know it too. And that's why they will likely succeed in destroying western civilization. Because we have lost the will to survive. We'll only have ourselves to blame.
A blunt appraisal and the brutal truth that few will want to confront.
As an aside, during WWII, General Lemay informed our War Department that he had run out of targets to bomb in Japan. That was a major reason that Hiroshima was bombed; because it was relatively unscathed. Toyko had nearly been burnt to the ground and a nuke on it wouldn't have impressed the Japanese government that a nuke would hurt them any more than they had already been hurt by conventional bombing. By showing the utter destruction of Hiroshima and Nagasaki it became evident to the Emperor of Japan that further resistance was futile and that's when he put a stop the carnage by speaking to the Japanese people for the first time in their lives. But that almost didn't happen because the hard liners in the government insisted on resisting to the last Japanese. That is a matter of historical record.
I am beginning to have some very real concerns about Bush's backbone. As far as I am concerned we should give Iran an ultimatum. Either end their nuclear program now or we will end it for them NOW!!
Then, in the middle of the river, the scorpion stings the frog. The frog asks, "Why did you sting me? Now we both will die." The scorpion says, "I couldn't help it. I'm a scorpion".
Muslims are like the scorpions. They don't have regard for their lives, they just have to kill infidels. Especially jews and americans. God help the Jewish Americans if the mohametans ever get the upper hand.
I am beginning to have some very real concerns about Bush's backbone. As far as I am concerned we should give Iran an ultimatum. Either end their nuclear program now or we will end it for them NOW!!
I agree.
When you visit the Middle East, when Americans were all respected, you would be requested to visit the US embassy in that country to introduce yourself.
The story came from one of the embassy staff - in essence he was telling me to be careful and not to trust anyone.
I wish they use it in their diplomatic efforts.
While there were no Muzzies in Aesop's day, lucky him, he did live not so very far from the Mideast, even by the Standards of the day. He knew about Arabs and Persians.
War with terrorist states need not include occupation. It is enough to leave them destroyed and in rubble. Occupation is an unnecessary drain on all of our resouces and assumes we are now responsible for their future. Not true. They were and are responsible for their fate, and they are and will be responsible for what they become. If they seek a peaceful representative government, we should stand ready to help. And if they become what they were, they should be destroyed again... and again... and again.
As a WWII vet, one napalm would take care of the scene you described. We used them in Guadalcanal, Tarawa, Iwo Jima and Okinawa resulting in decreasing the enemy census. Or bring out those flame-throwing tanks to expedite awarding these terrorists with their 72 virgins.
Better still, dip the rifle bullets in pigs blood and the terrorist will surrender before being hit with one.
I always remember that line a tad differently: "I'm a scorpion. It's in my nature."
I dumbed it down for my target audience. :)
Bump.
You are absolutely right. That's how it goes. I heard this tale in 1971.
It's only a deterrent if you demonstrate you are willing to use it.
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