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That's ironic. You voted your pocket book, voted for Perot, which helped Clinton get elected, since 2/3rds or more of Perot votes were people that would have voted Bush, and then Bush would have won. So Clinton won, and for eight years, you paid more taxes than you would have under Bush 41 in a second term. That didn't work out so well for your pocket book in retrospect. Bitter irony.

The bottom line point I have said a hundred times today is this. The conservative movement created this majority. That movement was lead by conservative social Republicans. Giuliani is a RINO. Giuliani does not agree with half the GOP plank. It wasn't RINOs that created this majority, it was REAL solid conservatives. That's the bottom line. Giuliani is the GOP type that made the GOP a minority party for 50 years with secular non-values ideals. It was social conservative Reagan that birthed the conservative movement, taking the GOP back to it's 1850's roots through Abe Lincolns terms, until the 1930s, when the secular Republicans took over. So basically, the last time the RINOs took over the party, the GOP was a minority for 50 yars. Do ya really want to do that again? I don't.

Several times today I've admitted my shame for that vote. I can't change the past. But I can make sure I don't make that mistake again. Those who say here that they will vote third party or sit out if the Republicans don't give the nod to the person of their choosing are making the same mistake that I, and many Republicans made in 92. Hell, I didn't have to admit to it on this forum. I chose to so that others might see the foolishness of what they are saying. Learn from my mistake. You don't like Giulliani, fine. You don't like McCain, fine. But what are you gonna do if one of them gets the nod???

Learn also from the way the libs have brought this country to the point it's at. INCRIMENTALISM. You most likely will NOT get everything you want in one shot. So take what you can. You have to differentiate between your wants and your gots.
As to whether or not the War is the be all and end all, IT IS!!!!! Take all your morals and culture and see how far they get you when these bastards start to do to us what they do to Israel. When the rockets start flying into San Diego from Mexico, or an LNG tanker goes boom in a major port, or airliners drop into cities, culture and morals won't mean squat.