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And where's your evidence to support that most Republicans don't care about abortion anymore? So instead of Slick-Willie, we'll get Slick-Giuliani. You really think most Republicans are so simple minded and so morally loose that they'll take the guy who looks good and sounds good and just forget about all those pesky traditional values and social beliefs that most Republicans believe in? So tell me then, if they're so unimportant, why was the GOP a MINORITY for FIFTY YEARS when it was run by Giuliani secular types with no conservative social values? Huh? Why's that??? Are you WANTING to run the GOP into the ground for another half century as a permanent minority? Because THAT is what a RINO Giuliani as President would do.

And if most Republicans are so "sick" of abortion and the other social issues like gay marriage and embryonic stem cell research and other bedrock conservative values, then WHY was the CLEAR MAJORITY of Republican voters screaming for SC nominees like Roberts and Alito who reflected those EXACT SAME traditional conservative values??? Why is that if most Republicans are so sick of that??? Why was there such MASSIVE support from the Republican majority, who was screaming for a real conservative constructionist who held those traditional Constitutional values, shared by the founders?

By your analysis, Giuliani should be picked above Anbraham Lincoln or Teddy Roosevelt, or any of the founding fathers for that matter. And I challenge you to assert that most Republicans would prefer Giuliani, a RINO, over Teddy, or Abe, or any of the founders who WROTE the Constitution and MADE this country BASED on the kind of Biblical values which Giuliani does not support. Your argument just doesn't match up with the past 12 years of evidence as to what most Republicans find to be so important, EVEN since 9-11. Social values are NOT in the trunk, or the back seat to the war. They're right there by it and they are what seperate the GOP from the liberals who oppose ALL that the GOP stands for. I guess you want to scrap half the GOP plank. Good luck with that. Let me know how that turns out for you. It was passed overwhelmingly by GOP voters. THAT is the poll I stand by. :)

your Awesome you make better view points then I could ever dream of

I love you - but responding to someone who simply cuts and pastes the same comments over and over is pointless.

I get your point of view.

No need to respond to each other any longer.

God bless - good luck.