[John Robertson]

Right you are. I keep telling my kids, who are pretty good and fair-minded anyway, that ANY job, done with class and as well as you can do it, ennobles them.

As for all the tie-bashers here...I guess we must have an inordinate number of low-achievers registered at FR. Go ahead, guys, bitch about suits and ties and good shoes. Yeah, let's hear it for "comfort." But you know what? All the guys and gals who wear first-class businesswear aren't all that uncomfortable in it...because they're up there in the top-executive class of the top corporations, making more money in a year than you'll make in a decade.

As for the notion that you are "rebelling" against their "control" by all wearing the same damned thing--khakis or Dockers with a golf shirt...hey, they like it that way. You have all chosen to dress for the middle or lower, and there you will remain.

Have a nice casual day, all.

[ThinkDifferent]

As for all the tie-bashers here...I guess we must have an inordinate number of low-achievers registered at FR.

Or maybe many of us realize that substance counts for more than symbolism.

All the guys and gals who wear first-class businesswear aren't all that uncomfortable in it...because they're up there in the top-executive class of the top corporations, making more money in a year than you'll make in a decade.

I'm sure Bill Gates and Steve Jobs would be fascinated by your theories.

[tortoise]

But you know what? All the guys and gals who wear first-class businesswear aren't all that uncomfortable in it...because they're up there in the top-executive class of the top corporations, making more money in a year than you'll make in a decade.

I do not know where you live, but around here millionaires, billionaires, and top executives "dress up" to maybe polos and khakis. The money made is completely independent of the dress in real-world business, and over-dressing can leave a bad impression in many businesses. There are very few businesses that I deal with at the executive level where I would dare wear a suit. My lovely suits get most of their wear at restaurants that require it. The only suit-and-tie people I see work at old school Manhattan companies that are perpetually decades behind the rest of the business world. Did you time travel here from the 1950s?

[Melas]

But you know what? All the guys and gals who wear first-class businesswear aren't all that uncomfortable in it...because they're up there in the top-executive class of the top corporations, making more money in a year than you'll make in a decade.

Sadly, you obviously value people based on their incomes. I'll tell you straight up that the guy who makes half as much as I do is entiled to all of the respect I am entitled, and the same goes for the guy that makes twice as much me.