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Corridor May Be Perry's Albatross
San Antonio Express-News ^ | 08/23/06 | R.G. Ratcliffe

Posted on 08/23/2006 7:43:39 AM PDT by Froufrou

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To: hedgetrimmer
Where are these people who never use roads? I'd like to meet one.

The current road system is socialized because it depends or rural drivers to finance urban transportation.

Some on FR should also take note that under the current funding system importers and exporters will be paying substantially less for use of TX infrastructure than they will pay under a toll financed system. It is only fair that international traffic pay commensurate with the burden they put on the system.
81 posted on 08/23/2006 4:42:35 PM PDT by Deek
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To: SolidSupplySide

I said support, I sent him money. Will vote for Gobbs.


82 posted on 08/23/2006 5:28:21 PM PDT by Hydroshock ( (Proverbs 22:7). The rich ruleth over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender.)
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To: Deek

He is a lying rino.


83 posted on 08/23/2006 5:29:03 PM PDT by Hydroshock ( (Proverbs 22:7). The rich ruleth over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Your welcome.


84 posted on 08/23/2006 5:29:31 PM PDT by Hydroshock ( (Proverbs 22:7). The rich ruleth over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender.)
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To: SolidSupplySide; hedgetrimmer

Just take a look at his/her/its lengthy posting history. If someone's posts here seem to be almost exclusively devoted to bashing President Bush, free markets, and numerous other Republicans without suggesting any GOP'er's who they support, some might find that worthy of consideration when weighing that poster's vitriolic and voluminous attacks. Especially when others have noted and quoted almost verbatim Bush/conservatism/free market bashing posts by a 'hedgetrimmer' over at the liberal website Democrat Underground.

Identifying isn't silencing.


85 posted on 08/23/2006 9:09:26 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Froufrou
Flame away, but there will have to be another North/South road sooner or later. Widening I-35 will displace a lot of homes and businesses too and will be no less disruptive to business and homes than the corridor, it will just be different businesses and homes. And you'll still have the tremendous truck traffic that is so dangerous going through major cities. I would think the towns in West Texas would welcome the traffic and the business that will come with it. Right now the traffic is almost bumper to bumper from North of Dallas to San Antonio.
86 posted on 08/23/2006 9:22:08 PM PDT by pepperdog
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Thanks for the ping!


87 posted on 08/23/2006 9:25:59 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: pepperdog

Having proudly posted before reading I now see that the major concern is the tie in with Mexico. So stop it at some town before Texas, just do something to ease the traffic on I-35 before there is grid lock clear to the Oklahoma line.


88 posted on 08/23/2006 9:28:57 PM PDT by pepperdog
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To: Diddle E. Squat

Should Perry thus "Listen to the people" and push for amnesty,


Your logic is flawed with that statement. If the majority of those marching were illegals then, they are not representatives of the voting public. At least I hope they're not.


89 posted on 08/24/2006 4:13:06 AM PDT by wolfcreek (You can spit in our tacos and you can rape our dogs but, you can't take away our freedom!)
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To: Froufrou

To date, Governor Perry, a Republican, has not met with Democrats Richardson or Napolitano."


Just to be fair here, there will be a meeting of border governors later this week. Let's see, there will be a RINO, a LIB, a LIB and a RINO.


90 posted on 08/24/2006 4:18:19 AM PDT by wolfcreek (You can spit in our tacos and you can rape our dogs but, you can't take away our freedom!)
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To: Alamo-Girl

You're welcome.


91 posted on 08/24/2006 10:36:26 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Going partly violently to the thing 24-7!)
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To: Diddle E. Squat; Deek

the theory of NAFTA is that by creating more jobs and thus more middle income in Mexico, it will reduce the number of illegal immigrants coming to the US for jobs and a higher standard of living. Free trade brings lower costs for goods, leaving more leftover money for a person to spend on other things (imported goods that produce importing, distribution, retailing, and finance jobs, domestic goods, and domestic services) and thus stimulating our economy...NAFTA and amnesty are really different topics.
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What happened in reality was that american tax payer subsidized wheat/corn/barley went down to Mexico. That midwest US government wheat/corn/barley was a third cheaper than what the small farmers of Mexico could produce. The US government subsidized great plains grains killed the business of the Mexican small farmer like they did to eastern US small farmer 3-4 generations ago. 30% of Mexico's population were still farmers as of 1990. That percentage is rapidly falling. Guess where they're going. Yep. North.

Recently the US Congress passed CAFTA for central america; same thing will happen for central america. Guess where those folks will go.

Of course they will need better access to the USA and more schools prisons and hospitals. And since the democratic party cannot reproduce because they believe its the birthright of every woman to abort her child--the democrats will want to give the illegals and convicts citizenship & voting rights.

Your taxpayer dollars at work.

Diddle, I trust you are least being paid for your time on these boards;


92 posted on 08/24/2006 11:17:54 AM PDT by ckilmer
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To: ckilmer; Hydroshock; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; Diddle E. Squat; TXnMA
Diddle, I trust you are least being paid for your time on these boards;

Hum...there does seems to be a surprising amount apparently "paid help" posting on this issue. I assume that is a result of the populists candidates need for a negative issue, and some sort of paid attempt to turn the TTC into that issue.

What is comical is the pattern of postings. Tolerance puts the article up, and the same anti-TTC folks post using the same hyperbolic words like "Boondoggle" and "Travesty". Sounds like they are reading off of a script.

If requests for facts or justification for the anti-TTC opinion are made, those posts are seldom answered. Thus making one question the motives of the original poster if they can't justify their stance.
93 posted on 08/24/2006 11:28:40 PM PDT by Deek
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To: Deek; Hydroshock; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; Diddle E. Squat; TXnMA

Deek you've been given a dozen reasons for why the plan is a bad idea.

They just don't impress you. That's ok.

You'll find that people will just generally move around you. That's all.


94 posted on 08/25/2006 8:55:36 AM PDT by ckilmer
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To: ckilmer
What happened in reality was that american tax payer subsidized wheat/corn/barley went down to Mexico. That midwest US government wheat/corn/barley was a third cheaper than what the small farmers of Mexico could produce. The US government subsidized great plains grains killed the business of the Mexican small farmer like they did to eastern US small farmer 3-4 generations ago. 30% of Mexico's population were still farmers as of 1990. That percentage is rapidly falling. Guess where they're going. Yep. North.

Government, like chemotherapy, can have bad side effects, even on other countries like Mexico apparently.

95 posted on 08/26/2006 11:46:34 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Going partly violently to the thing 24-7!)
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To: Dog Gone
Strayhorn was liberal enough to be mayor of Austin, so that tells you a lot. I drove down Highway 6 from Waco to Bremond yesterday, and saw quite a few "no trespassing" signs. They were actually campaign signs against the corridor. Many of these signs had Strayhorn signs next to them.

I don't like the idea of toll roads, but all the towns east of 35, at least from Waco to Austin, are drying up and blowing away. Many of them are just a little ways from being ghost towns, and 35 is turning into a quagmire (we need to pull out). I suspect that by 2020, there will be a big L starting at the Oklahoma border and going down to San Antonio, then going east to Houston that will be entirely urban. Some major highways HAVE to be built. Austin is practically undriveable now, because the citizens denied the need for improved roads for thirty years. While I'm not nuts about Perry's solution, Kinky's is "have another beer and don't worry about it" and Strayhorn's is a solution that would cost billions more, provide less new roads, and she hasn't proposed a way to pay for it (gosh, I wonder if she might be thinking STATE INCOME TAX?)

96 posted on 08/26/2006 12:01:51 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (The most important thing is sincerity. Once you can fake that, everything else is easy.)
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To: Richard Kimball

Toll roads are a pain in the butt, but nobody is being forced to use them. And construction costs for freeways has to be paid by all of us, whether we use them or not.

So a concept that the actual users pay for the road is not that unreasonable.

The land grab argument is silly unless those who use it are willing to declare that Texas never needs another road, ever. As long as new roads require land to build them on, it's a necessary tradeoff.


97 posted on 08/26/2006 12:25:44 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
Texas, even with a gov't subsidized children's health insurance program is still near the bottom nationally (48th or 49th.) Obviously, this is due almost completely to the illegal immigration problem. Dallas County is the worst county or parish in the entire country for children getting their immunizations.
This race is between 3 democrats and a Jewish comedian.
98 posted on 08/28/2006 11:48:26 AM PDT by Prodn2000
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To: Prodn2000

Sad but true, there is not a conservative republican in this race.


99 posted on 08/28/2006 11:51:38 AM PDT by Hydroshock ( (Proverbs 22:7). The rich ruleth over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender.)
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To: Dog Gone
So why not have Zachry Construction, a Texas company, do the job. They did a great job on the High5 in Dallas; finishing almost a 1 1/2 years early.

Why outsource this huge and monumental project?
100 posted on 08/28/2006 12:04:24 PM PDT by Prodn2000
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