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Revived muscle car to save industry jobs
Waterbury Republican-American ^ | August 22, 2006 | Greg Bensinger

Posted on 08/22/2006 6:59:41 AM PDT by Graybeard58

General Motors Corp. will save about 2,500 jobs in Oshawa, Ontario, by building a revived Chevrolet Camaro sports car there in two years, the union that represents the workers said.

Production of the 2009 Camaro will begin at the end of 2008 as part of a $662 million investment, the company's Canadian unit said Monday. GM, the world's largest automaker, made the previous Camaro in Ste. Therese, Quebec, until 2002.

Members of the Canadian Auto Workers paved the way for the decision by agreeing in March to concessions that included shorter break times and use of contract employees.

GM said the investment is designed to give the plant flexibility to build a variety of vehicles. The Oshawa plant now makes Buick Lacrosse, Pontiac Grand Prix and Chevrolet Monte Carlo and Impala cars.

"We are thrilled about this, it means that any job losses will be through attrition, the workers' own decision," Peter Kennedy, a union spokesman, said in an interview. "But this doesn't solve everything. We're hopeful that ($662 million) investment means something else will come in to sustain the business there."

About 100,000 Camaros will be built annually, Kennedy said.

He provided the estimate of jobs saved, from about 6,000 workers at the factory.

The Detroit-based automaker said earlier this month it would bring back the Camaro. GM built the so-called muscle car from 1966 until 2002, when annual sales dwindled to 28,404 from a peak of 260,201 in 1978.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News
KEYWORDS: automakers; camaro; generalmotors; musclecar
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No Thanks.

I bought a Z-28 Camero new in '97. Nothing but problems and expensive upkeep, from a burglar alarm that went off every time it rained to a fuel pump that expired as soon as the warranty did ($1,000), along with the electric window motor, water pump and tires at $1,200 per set that had to be replaced if you actually drove on them for 15-20,000 miles. The only thing it had going for it was that it was fast and looked nice.

I'll stick with my Toyota from now on.

1 posted on 08/22/2006 6:59:42 AM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: Graybeard58

Tell us how you REALLY feel! lol!


2 posted on 08/22/2006 7:01:03 AM PDT by Jerry Attrick (<B>)
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To: Jerry Attrick

My 2001 Camaro SS cannot compare with my 2003 Mustang Cobra. I get better performance, better fuel mileage and I can see over the hood!

I do hope that GM doesn't "screw the pooch" the way it did with the "new" Pontiac GTO. That was an utter disaster.


3 posted on 08/22/2006 7:03:50 AM PDT by RexBeach
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To: Graybeard58

What kind of mileage will these things get...


4 posted on 08/22/2006 7:04:14 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: Graybeard58
About 100,000 Camaros will be built annually, Kennedy said.

Oh yea? Don't bet on it.

5 posted on 08/22/2006 7:06:59 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (I gigged your peace frog.)
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To: Graybeard58
Amen! I had one about the same time. What a pile of junk! Too many problems, frustrations, aggravations, etc. to list. Twice I made the mistake of buying a GM vehicle, both times because I wanted to support US auto makers. I did my part, but I don't feel they upheld their end of the bargain. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me!

I might, might, buy one of their new muscle cars if it was built on the body of the 1957 Chevy!

I often wondered why some of the Big Three doesn't go back and build the classics with the new technology. A lot of people in my age group have the ability to drive just about anything we choose. My dad had a 1957 Ford four-door hardtop, the one without the post. What a great car. I had some great times in that car on the back roads of southwest Alabama (wink, wink). I would gladly pay half again what a new Ford costs today to have that body style again!

OK, back to work and reality!
6 posted on 08/22/2006 7:08:59 AM PDT by jwparkerjr
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7 posted on 08/22/2006 7:09:09 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF...68-73,,..."never store a threat you should have eliminated")
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To: Graybeard58
If they post, here are some pics of the concept car for the 2009:





Unfortunately, if history is any guide, initial quality will be sub-par, destroying the reputation before it gets launched. On top of that, GM will overprice it, its dealers will add a premium on top of that, and sales will be sluggish because of it. After a couple of years of quality problems and slow sales, they'll finally get all the bugs worked out and adjust the price only to cancel it.
8 posted on 08/22/2006 7:09:12 AM PDT by CertainInalienableRights
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To: Jerry Attrick

I had a 1978 Camaro with a 305 Small Block. One turn of the key and all I could hear was Highway Star.


9 posted on 08/22/2006 7:09:17 AM PDT by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: RacerF150
What kind of mileage will these things get...

actually quite good if driven moderately, and quite bad if driven hard

10 posted on 08/22/2006 7:09:30 AM PDT by nascarnation
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To: Graybeard58
Looks pretty good, I wonder what they'll change for production.


11 posted on 08/22/2006 7:10:44 AM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: nascarnation

Why don't they bring back something the public is crying out for ? Like the Corvair...


12 posted on 08/22/2006 7:12:35 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: Lx

That is sweet....


13 posted on 08/22/2006 7:13:24 AM PDT by ketelone
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To: Doogle

They might call that a Camaro, but it's not a Camaro.

Why didn't they follow the Ford lead and simply spruce-up the original design?


14 posted on 08/22/2006 7:14:20 AM PDT by angkor
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To: Graybeard58

*sigh* i miss my IROC. ripped out the stupid 305 engine, replaced with a properly built 350. i loved that thing.


15 posted on 08/22/2006 7:14:44 AM PDT by absolootezer0 ("My God, why have you forsaken us.. no wait, its the liberals that have forsaken you... my bad")
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To: Lx

If history is any guide;
1. They'll raise the roof-line for the soccer moms and elderly ;)
2. They'll mute some of the sharper edges.
3. A less aggressive forward profile.

I don't know if I like the tail-lamps. I think I'd prefer something round that pulls from the older heritage.

If this is gonna sell, it better come stock with 300+ hp.


16 posted on 08/22/2006 7:15:02 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: Graybeard58

I had a 96 Z. Most fun car to drive I have ever owned. I did have a sensor die but it was covered by warranty. By comparison, I now have a very boring-to-drive Maxima.

I might just break down and buy a new Camaro before I get too old to drive one.


17 posted on 08/22/2006 7:16:30 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot
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To: CertainInalienableRights

"Unfortunately, if history is any guide, initial quality will be sub-par, destroying the reputation before it gets launched. On top of that, GM will overprice it, its dealers will add a premium on top of that, and sales will be sluggish because of it. After a couple of years of quality problems and slow sales, they'll finally get all the bugs worked out and adjust the price only to cancel it."

That pretty much sums up GMs product offering handbook. But it's all the union's fault, right?


18 posted on 08/22/2006 7:17:44 AM PDT by brownsfan (It's not a war on terror... it's a war with islam.)
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To: angkor

"They might call that a Camaro, but it's not a Camaro.

Why didn't they follow the Ford lead and simply spruce-up the original design?"

I know it's fun to complain... but that is based on the original design. Go look up a 1967 Camaro.


19 posted on 08/22/2006 7:19:40 AM PDT by brownsfan (It's not a war on terror... it's a war with islam.)
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20 posted on 08/22/2006 7:19:51 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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