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To: Cvengr
"This is an issue of legitimate authority within the local church and frequently the pastor-teacher has the authority and responsibility to enforce."

Women were leaders in individual house churches in early Christianity. Enough control for you???


"If that authority is being usurped or discussed behind his back, then the issue is gossip and those women who don't like being corrected are merely making their situation more miserable as gossips. "

Considering that women are evil and sinful gossips, then why does the Catholic Church have three women Doctors (St. Catherine of Sienna, St. Teresa of Avila, and St Therese, the Little Flower). These ladies' writings on Catholic theology are considered to be as important as Aquinas.

"The instances you reference document that women do not have the gift of pastor-teacher, but one will have to study Greek to comprehend those meanings. If the student disobeys their pastor-teacher, then that issue has priority to resolve before furthering the discussion."

Most Biblical scholars, all of whom have studied the original Greek, would concur. Furthermore, from a historical standpoint, it would make sense that women would take an active role in organizing and leading the early Church, especially in the context of Paul's missionary travels. Women took a very active role in religion in the Hellenistic world, especially in organizing and financing private household "cults."
363 posted on 08/21/2006 10:15:10 PM PDT by Accygirl
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To: Accygirl
Thanks

I love these threads, hundred of replies all arguing with someone they have never met (face to face)

And I love to throw in questions like - since women sew alot, would they know how many angels can dance on the head of pin?
376 posted on 08/22/2006 12:34:21 AM PDT by ASOC (The phrase "What if" or "If only" are for children.)
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To: Accygirl

Your argument isn't with me, it's with Him and the gifts of the Holy Spirit. Return to Him so those gifts might be understood per His plan. A woman working as a pastor-teacher is attempting to perform good works at her own hand. Such works are good for nothingness. Only the good through faith in Christ as provided by Him is righteous.

No pastor-teacher operates out of selfish control. Only by sacrificing the old man and remaining obedient to Him is the gift of pastor-teacher exercised.

Administrative leadership is a gift some women might receive, but that is a discernible gift from that of pastor-teacher.


409 posted on 08/22/2006 6:09:36 AM PDT by Cvengr
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