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Boeing 747 Large Cargo Freighter Rolls Out; Prepares for First Flight
Boeing Commercial News ^ | Aug. 17, 2006

Posted on 08/21/2006 11:19:34 AM PDT by skeptoid

Boeing [NYSE: BA] has rolled the first 747-400 Large Cargo Freighter (LCF) out of the hangar at Taipei's Chiang Kai-Shek International Airport. The enormous airplane is the first of three specially modified jets that will be used to transport major assemblies for the all-new Boeing 787 Dreamliner.

"This is one of the most unusual modifications Boeing has ever done," said Scott Strode, 787 vice president of Airplane Development and Production. "We've relied on the world's best talent to design and build the LCF and we can all be proud today to see it standing on the tarmac."

Ground testing is under way to prepare the LCF for its first flight. After initial flight testing in Taipei, the LCF will fly to Seattle to complete the flight test program. First flight and the ferry flight to Seattle are expected to occur by the end of August.

The modifications have been performed by Evergreen Aviation Technologies Corp. (EGAT), a joint venture of EVA Air and General Electric and a part of Taiwan's Evergreen Group. The second airplane continues to be modified and will be completed this fall. The third airplane will begin modification next year. The first two LCFs enter service in 2007 to support the final assembly of the first Dreamliners.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: 747400; 787dreamliner; boeing; lcf
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To: Paul Ross
I see .... I hadn't heard that.
The graphic in #74 is from the Seattle P.I. of Tuesday, June 27, 2006 headlined "Boeing Dreamliner 'coming to life'" and attributed to Boeing and the P.I.
It doesn't mention China-built 787 componenets
I've found lots on Boeing sales, customer service, training, and 747 conversions in China, but nothing about making 787 components.
Got any references?
81 posted on 08/22/2006 1:12:44 PM PDT by skeptoid
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To: skeptoid
...but nothing about making 787 components. Got any references?

787 Rudders (made out of composites) and fairings (also composites) to be made in China

And this fabrication outsourcing may not stop there...as the article alludes to, the Chinese contribution to 737 and 747 production is increasing...just as it may also for the 787, if they prove themselves on the existing tail components, such as the rudder.

82 posted on 08/22/2006 1:26:38 PM PDT by Paul Ross (We cannot be for lawful ordinances and for an alien conspiracy at one and the same moment.-Cicero)
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To: skeptoid

I've heard that Evergreen International Aviation, Inc. is an Oregon-based aviation company with longstanding ties to the CIA.


83 posted on 08/22/2006 1:37:44 PM PDT by BulletBobCo
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To: Paul Ross
AH-HAH!
Thanks for the link. China Daily is now in my Daily Favorites folder.
It seems strange China wasn't mentioned in the PI series, even though the contracts values are quite small (600 million).
84 posted on 08/22/2006 1:56:33 PM PDT by skeptoid
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To: BulletBobCo

I've heard that, too.


85 posted on 08/22/2006 2:17:15 PM PDT by skeptoid
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To: BulletBobCo
Have you seen this Evergreen project?


86 posted on 08/22/2006 2:39:29 PM PDT by skeptoid
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To: namsman
What do you think of this comment:

"This is one of the most unusual modifications Boeing has ever done," said Scott Strode, 787 vice president of Airplane Development and Production. "We've relied on the world's best talent to design and build the LCF and we can all be proud today to see it standing on the tarmac."

What does that say about the Seattle-based engineers?

87 posted on 08/22/2006 7:25:54 PM PDT by SW6906 (6 things you can't have too much of: sex, money, firewood, horsepower, guns and ammunition.)
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To: SW6906
What does that say about the Seattle-based engineers?

They're just fine.

Check out the new 787 video, with a report narrated by Tina Wood:

New Boeing 787 Dreamliner! What a way to fly

88 posted on 08/23/2006 11:53:46 AM PDT by Paul Ross (We cannot be for lawful ordinances and for an alien conspiracy at one and the same moment.-Cicero)
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To: skeptoid; phantomworker
I've wondered about the definition of 'content'.

Agreed. Its a troubling claim. And its not all about money. Its about fabrication capability, of making sure an aeronautical production infrastructure doesn't wither away.

Boeing's "Integration" as a strategy is a last gasp to keep the COMPANY in business, but for the COUNTRY, it may presage keeping only some minimal capability.

89 posted on 08/23/2006 1:48:11 PM PDT by Paul Ross (We cannot be for lawful ordinances and for an alien conspiracy at one and the same moment.-Cicero)
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To: skeptoid

Guppy wanna-be?


90 posted on 08/23/2006 1:49:07 PM PDT by rottndog (WOOF!!!)
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To: Paul Ross
Boeing's "Integration" as a strategy is a last gasp to keep the COMPANY in business

Paul, I usually respect your views on the aerospace business, but this statement couldn't be further from reality. Going from a parts manufacturer to a large scale system integrator is NOT a last gasp but rather a very successful strategy for many reasons. Large scale integration is how Airbus became so successful (however mismanagement is why it is failing). IMHO

91 posted on 08/23/2006 9:03:34 PM PDT by phantomworker ("Don't accuse me of your imagination.")
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To: phantomworker
...but this statement couldn't be further from reality.

Let's take a poll in the industry at the engineering level. I think you would find overwhelming disagreement...not with my view but yours.

Going from a parts manufacturer to a large scale system integrator is NOT a last gasp but rather a very successful strategy for many reasons.

Sucessful for the company. But not the COUNTRY. You keep missing the infrastructural point.

Large scale integration is how Airbus became so successful (however mismanagement is why it is failing).

No. It was their national subsidies...right up front as phony loans. Never repaid, coincidentally. As for their practicing integration...it was a political necessity, to farm the work out throughout their European pork-barrel pals. And in a sense, it is largely for this same reason that Boeing is doing the same outsourcing. To garner sales from countries that really don't practice free trade...but nationally-managed trade...and will grant the favor of plane orders, for a piece of the business. A slippery slope indeed.

92 posted on 08/24/2006 7:26:55 AM PDT by Paul Ross (We cannot be for lawful ordinances and for an alien conspiracy at one and the same moment.-Cicero)
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To: skeptoid
http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/2006/photorelease/q3/060817b_lg.jpg

Be honest honey, does this modification make me look fat?

93 posted on 08/24/2006 7:28:52 AM PDT by commish (Freedom tastes sweetest to those who have fought to protect it.)
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To: commish

Be honest honey does this modification make me look fat?

Works better with the correct tags.

94 posted on 08/24/2006 7:31:20 AM PDT by commish (Freedom tastes sweetest to those who have fought to protect it.)
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To: Paul Ross
Let's take a poll in the industry at the engineering level. I think you would find overwhelming disagreement...not with my view but yours.

I understand your concern. However, this is yesterday's argument against outsourcing. Engineers need to adapt to the global economy.

95 posted on 08/24/2006 8:22:41 AM PDT by phantomworker ("Live life like there is no tomorrow. And don't accuse me of your imagination.")
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