MPs call for Canada to drop Hezbollah from terror list

CanWest News Service ^ | August 21, 2006 | Matthew Fisher

[Clive]

"Useful idiots. They get taken around on a terrorist tour, fed the terrorist party line and spout the terrorist propaganda."

Just like Reuters and AP.

[GMMAC]

"... how they're ever going to learn otherwise"

Your remarks are typical of those ignorant & unduly xenophobic Americans who actually harm freedom's (and America's) cause through their apparent inability to discern friends & allies.

Two dozen Canadian citizens were murdered at the WTC on 9/11 and many among the terrorists' other victims had various strong family and/or social ties to Canada.
Accordingly, Canada had troops on the ground in Afghanistan early in that conflict & who continue to hunt down & deliver appropriate justice to Taliban & Al Qaida vermin.

BTW, like countless Canadians, both my wife & I have American relatives who have honorably served in her Military and are equally proud of any of our our family members who've served freedom's cause irrespective of which nation's uniform they happened to wear while doing so.

[kanawa]

like countless Canadians, both my wife & I have American relatives who have honorably served in her Military

The lady who manages my credit union account in Mississauga
has a son that serves in the US forces
and is currently in Walter Reed Hospital recovering from wounds received in Iraq.

[Idaho Whacko]

If the IRA wanted to institute a world-wide version of the Spanish Inquisition, then you could compare them to Hezbolla.

But as it is, they suck too. But then British Nobility sucked. I'm glad I don't live there, but I do live here, and I cannot stand the fact that we keep importing them in the name of "diversity". Idaho is getting 1,100 more Somolians!!! Does anyone think people live in Idaho to be surrounded by African Muslims?

[Idaho Whacko]

You have one election that puts a "conservative" in power, and that is supposed to erase decades of liberalism? Strict gun control? Gay marriage? Snotty comments from your politicians/media? Judges ruling that parts of the bible cannot be published in newspapers because it is hate speech? Judges ruling that you can be punished for telling your kids that homosexuality is sick and wrong?

Have a few more sane elections, please.

Meanwhile, I'll still remember the ICBM intercept thing, and Canada's announcement at the start of Gulf War II, that any Iraqi who reaches a Canadian ship will not necessarily be turned over to the US.

[Idaho Whacko]

Perhaps you visit the limp-wristed, country club liberal sort of places. I Imagine they love Canadians in the Hamptons.

I know not all Canadians are P***ies, backstabbers, but enough of you folks seem to wish us harm and lack the ba\\s to stand up for what is right that personally, I don't give a crap about Canada. I get the general impression that Canadians and French share a sense of Shadenfreud whenever something goes wrong for us.

You Canadians seem to revel in Cuban vacations, probably just to flaunt our embargo.

RE Sharia in Canada (alternate title, How far cowards will sell their country go to avoid making Nutjobs mad)
http://www.youmeworks.com/sharia_canada.html

[Idaho Whacko]

Liberals are selfish creatures. They don't act unless something effects THEM. As long as the US is the main target, or Israel, they can kick back and smirk at us, marvelling in their moral superiority at not getting involved.

Liberals (and other dolts) are like the frog that is content to be slowly boiled to death. I agree that it would be best in the long run if the Islamicists turned up the heat a bit too fast, to wake the frogs (not just the French, but all the dolts)up.

Personally, I wonder if the nuts will bomb San Fran, the home of the biggest supporters of the arabs, but also the home of the people and lifestyles most offensive to muslims.

[CaptainCanada]

Perhaps you visit the limp-wristed, country club liberal sort of places. I Imagine they love Canadians in the Hamptons.

Well, by demonstrating the classic symptoms of a psychopath, we now have evidence that the Conservative "big tent" in the U.S. is reality.
BTW, most of my time in the U.S. was spent in that hotbed of Liberalism - the DFW area in Texas..

[CaptainCanada]

but enough of you folks seem to wish us harm and lack the ba\\s to stand up for what is right

What possible evidence do you have to make such a psychotic statement??
Please get professional help.. Statements like that can only eminate from a severely disturbed personality..
I believe a clue to your own recognition of your problem is the handle you gave yourself here "Whacko".
That's actually a good sign as it means you know you have a problem.
Please get help before you hurt yourself or others..
- your pal in Canada

[GMMAC]

Aside from constructively suggesting that newbies who go out of their way to insult & pick fights with others on FR usually get broomed and fast, your general sentiments can just as easily be applied to a pretty high percentage of the 57,355,978 American citizens who voted for John Kerry & John Edwards.

In fairness however, one presumes convicted felons, illegal immigrants, mental incompetents, lawyers & sundry moral degenerates are more than well represented among these numerous total supporters.

Seemingly my post #62 above would also apply.

[colonialhk]

Well lets arm the right wing in Canada and call them what we will!

As long as they have an MP or two they cant be a terrorist organization......left wing meat heads with no mission seeking moronic political fodder brought about by insane Arab tribalism!!!

[Idaho Whacko]

I agree, a large % of those 57+million are just as messed up.

But let's not pretend that all has been sweet in US/Canadian relations. Let's not pretend that pretty much the whole of Ontario is enemy territory.

I notice you did not respond to the sharia article that I posted. Kinda embarrassing, eh?

Or the ICBM thing.

Or the Iraq thing.

Or the Cuba thing.

Or the gun control thing.

Or the gay marriage thing.

Or the "bible as hate speech" thing.

Or the going to jail for saying gays are sick and wrong thing.

But hey, thanks for the help in Afganistan. That raid that was posted was awesome.

[DieHard the Hunter]

> Let's not pretend that pretty much the whole of Ontario is enemy territory.

You must feel pretty unsafe there in Idaho, with all those mean Ontarians living so close, seething just across the border half the continent away, baying for blood. You're dangerously close to The Enemy!

Who knows -- they might sneak across the border one night when the moon is full, and run quickly across three-or-four midwestern states to GET YOU!

Better be prepared! Got your flashlight, favorite blanket, hot water bottle and a warm glass of milk? Good. Find the broom closet and lock yourself in there, where you'll be safe from those Ontarians...

...but first check to make sure the Boogie Man isn't in there first! /sarc

[Idaho Whacko]

And you call me deranged, that was a nutty post.

Oh yeah, I forgot to add Quebec and Vancouver to the list of loopy Canadian provences.

BTW, Americans don't fear Canadians, didn't you see the South Park movie?

[GMMAC]

I didn't comment because the sentiments/issues which account for virtually every item on your list can easily be found within many jurisdictions Stateside as well.

Your view of Ontario is a gross oversimplification bordering upon downright moronic: following your 'logic', you'd also have to write off the entire populations of many quite populous American States - as examples, New York, Massachusetts & California based upon the half dozen seditious weasels currently 'representing' ALL citizens of same in the U.S. Senate.

Ontario is actually very much like New York State in the sense that both, once you get beyond their major urban areas, contain plenty of really great 'normal' people.

One major difference between the United States & Canada is that, up here, one generally only finds ignorant xenophobic types on the far left while, Stateside, they're not uncommon on the political right as well:
As example, never once did I ever hear any Canadian conservative apply Bill Clinton's blatant moral degeneracy to the vast majority of decent Americans.
However, a small, but strident & ill-informed contingent on FR routinely tars ALL Canadians with the sins of particular individuals.

Also, for whatever it's worth, at least 2 of the socialist MP's quoted in the above article have just spent the past 24 hours essentially denying what I don't doubt they originally said due to the fire storm of public outrage they're now encountering.

[exg]

The very face of terrorism
Naive MPs do a disservice by going soft on Hezbollah


Calgary Herald


Tuesday, August 22, 2006


Two Canadian MPs who advocate dropping Hezbollah from Canada's list of banned terrorist organizations should crawl back to the obscurity of the opposition back benches. Liberal Borys Wrzesnewskyj and New Democrat Peggy Nash are hardly credible experts on the subject, as shown by their ridiculous comments following a visit this week to Lebanon.

The two Toronto-area MPs argue if you remove the terrorist label, Hezbollah might negotiate peace with Israel. Wrzesnewskyj compared the situation to Northern Ireland, where London negotiated with the IRA to end more than 25 years of violence. Nash said her discussions in Lebanon led her to believe "it is just not helpful to label (Hezbollah) a terrorist organization."

Nash and Wrzesnewskyj are hardly high-profile politicians with impeccable track records. For example, Wrzesnewskyj, who was elected in 2004, accepted a free trip to the Ukraine to observe elections there. Ethics commissioner Bernard Shapiro revealed that the $4,597 trip was partly paid for by the University of Alberta's Canadian Institute of Ukrainian Studies.

And Nash, a rookie MP elected this year, was the one who filed a notice to dismiss Gwyn Morgan's appointment to head the public appointments commission. She rejected the EnCana founder as unsuitable even before she entered a committee room to hear him speak.

One might also point out their host in Lebanon was the National Council on Canada-Arab Relations, which has always opposed the Canadian government's total ban of Hezbollah. Canada added the group's charitable operations to its list in 2002.

The council argued that the military and charitable arms were different and should be treated separately. But Canada wisely decided the social arm wasn't distinguishing itself enough from terrorism, a conclusion it reached in part because Hezbollah leader Sheik Hassan Nasrallah called for an extension of the Palestinian suicide bombing campaign.

Hezbollah, which operates schools and hospitals in the south of Lebanon, is unquestionably a terrorist group. Yes, it provides social services, but its motive appears to be public relations more than benevolence.

Just a few days ago, it was before the cameras handing out wads of cash to desperate Shia families. It's wasn't charity. The money -- no doubt supplied from Iran -- is a way of convincing the impoverished people of the area to join the Hezbollah cause, which includes having as many children as possible and raising them to become martyrs and suicide bombers.

No matter what you call Hezbollah, the group will never negotiate with Israel because it exists to destroy Israel. Its leaders have said countless times that the Zionist entity must be extinguished. Wrzesnewskyj compared Hezbollah with the IRA, a fallacious assertion because the IRA never said the United Kingdom or Northern Ireland should be annihilated, nor does it believe Protestants have no right to exist.

Hezbollah might be better compared with Adolf Hitler's Nazis, who believed in the superiority of an Aryan race.

Hezbollah's political manifesto couldn't be clearer. It calls for eliminating Israel and turning the once Christian-dominated Lebanon into an Iranian-style Islamic republic. Hezbollah is anti-western, and opposed to a democratic Lebanon.

The comments from Wrzesnewskyj and Nash are an embarrassment. Thankfully, Ottawa quickly announced it has no intention of dropping the terrorist designation.

Wrzesnewskyj and Nash might want a refresher course in history. They can start by looking up Neville Chamberlain, the British prime minister who, in 1937, naively believed the German government had genuine grievances that could be addressed. He thought that by agreeing to some of Hitler's demands, he could avoid a European war.

He was wrong. So are Wrzesnewskyj and Nash, for lacking the courage to name terrorism for what it is, and instead trying to legitimize Hezbollah.

© The Calgary Herald 2006

[Busywhiskers]

Hezbolla probably bribed them using US foreign aid funds.

[colorado tanker]

Looks like the ususal suspects, liberal pro-Hezzies, Jew- haters.

[pleikumud]

On October 23, 1983 Hezbollah killed 241 U.S. soldiers in their barracks in Beirut. They killed 58 French soldiers a the same time. The moronmedia and the lunatic left ignores facts, or they are ignorant of facts.

Killing Hezbollah, Hamas, Al Qaeda etc. is the way to win the current war. We should be killing them as fast as possible - faster than we are now.

[Leftism is Mentally Deranged]

So the left is allied with the terrorists!