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To: Exton1

At this stage I'm afraid Europe is already lost. Secular socialism has produced a broken self loathing society ripe for take over. Some European nations will resist, but they will be increasingly useless as allies in this war against Islamists.

The US, Israel, Australia and hopefully stronger alliances with nations like India and Japan will have to suffice for now. We must hope we can bring Russia and China on board at some point since both have their own problems with Islamic fanaticism.

The Bush administration basically understands the threat, but has fundamentally erred in how to combat it, does not have the communications ability to lead and is increasingly unable to make bold (or even sound for that matter) decisions. At the same time, Olmert has been a total disaster for Israel.

We must hope that some charismatic, decisive leaders emerge in the West that can lead our civilization in this war against Islamists. We need to drop all PC nonsense, all notions of proportional war, and any inhibitions we have against the use of collective punishment against enemy population centers.

I fear it will take many more terrorist strikes on the United States before we finally get serious about this war.


24 posted on 08/20/2006 8:15:37 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Longbow1969

Oh, a charismatic decisive leader will emerge, but I don't think you really want to follow him.


28 posted on 08/20/2006 8:18:44 PM PDT by Blogger (http://www.propheteuon.com)
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To: Longbow1969
At this stage I'm afraid Europe is already lost. Secular socialism has produced a broken self loathing society ripe for take over.

I saw a program on the History Channel the other day about the Holocaust. It occured to me then that the EU is reaping what it has sown. I came to believe that they are under judgement for the Holocaust. They are toast.

40 posted on 08/20/2006 8:24:15 PM PDT by lafroste (gravity is not a force. See my profile to read my novel absolutely free (I know, beyond shameless))
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To: Longbow1969

"I fear it will take many more terrorist strikes on the United States before we finally get serious about this war."

Unfortunately your right on with this. Too many of the Sheople of the United States have been unaffected by the war to this point. If a chemical/biological/nuclear attack were to occur in Hollywood, then perhaps the Sheople will awaken.


41 posted on 08/20/2006 8:25:50 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Father of an American Soldier)
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To: Longbow1969
[The US, Israel, Australia and hopefully stronger alliances with nations like India and Japan will have to suffice for now. We must hope we can bring Russia and China on board at some point since both have their own problems with Islamic fanaticism.]



Every country on Earth has a problem with Islamic fanaticism because the Islamic fanatics are killing EVERYBODY who doesn't worship Allah properly in their view. That includes Jews, Christians, Buddhists, Hindus and all other world religions as well as atheists, and even other Muslims who are not aggressive enough in their devotion to Mohammad's example.

Those signs they're carrying saying, "SLAUGHTER THOSE WHO SLANDER ISLAM" and "ISLAM WILL DOMINATE THE WORLD" are not a joke and they've sworn to Allah on their lives to make it a reality. This is similar to the 1930s and 40s when the world watched with studied concern as the Nazis rose to power yet lacked the will to stop them until it reached the proportion of a world crisis costing tens of millions of lives.
54 posted on 08/20/2006 8:38:33 PM PDT by spinestein (Follow The Brazen Rule)
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