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Islamic academic claims 'martyrs stand up in defiance of Bush & Blair'
24dash.com ^ | 20/08/2006 | Keith Hall

Posted on 08/20/2006 12:02:39 PM PDT by mdittmar

The audience at a Muslim rally today were told that dying for your beliefs was "just" and the "greatest act of martyrdom".

Dr Azzam Tamimi, a firebrand Islamic academic and self-styled Hamas sympathiser, claimed he is prepared to become a suicide bomber.

An 8,000 strong crowd in Manchester were told that Tony Blair and George Bush were not pursuing a path which was "just and fair". He said the government was attempting to make the war on terrorism a war on Islam.

Dr Tamimi, 51, was speaking at the ExpoIslamia convention at the Manchester Evening News Arena.

The Palestinian, who now lives in London, denied Hamas was a terrorist group, despite it being banned in the UK.

He said: "The greatest act of martyrdom is standing up for what is true and just.

"Martyrs are those who stand up and stand up in defiance of George Bush and Tony Blair.

"You stand up to them and you say desist. Stop this injustice. Stop this oppression.

"We are Muslims in Europe, not European Muslims.

"Being fair and just means finding the middle path.

"The middle path is not rubbing shoulders with Tony Blair and George Bush.

"They say we are in difficult times. I tell you, we are in the best of times. We must just have confidence in ourselves.

"Just stand up and defend what is right."

The crowd erupted with cheering and applause when he said that Israel had been defeated by Hezbollah.

He continued: "Hamas is making sacrifices for you.

"We tell this government Hamas is not a terrorist group. It is elected by the people of Palestine.

"We are not terrorists. We are defenders of the truth.

"Fighting those who invade Muslims is a just cause.

"The government is trying to turn the war on terror into the war on Islam."

Dr Tamimi had previously said, during the course of a BBC interview, that he was prepared to be a suicide bomber if the opportunity arose.

Today's day-long convention featured a number of high profile Muslim speakers, including the secretary general of the Muslim Council of Britain, Dr Muhammad Abdul Bari and former Sunday Express journalist, Yvonne Ridley, a Muslim convert who recently upset Jewish groups with her comments on Israel.

It was the fifth time the ExpoIslamia convention has been held in the UK.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: academia; eurabia; globaljihad; islam; islamicnazis; muslims; radicalmuslims; tamimi; ukmuslims
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"We are Muslims in Europe, not European Muslims"
1 posted on 08/20/2006 12:02:40 PM PDT by mdittmar
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Don't think for a minute there are not Muslims just as fanatical in the U.S. There are just more of them in Europe.


2 posted on 08/20/2006 12:05:37 PM PDT by BW2221
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"We are @ssholes in Europe, not European @ssholes"
I think that's a more accurate depiction.
3 posted on 08/20/2006 12:07:03 PM PDT by pipecorp ( muhammed ......8(_o_)8 .................nice likeness, eh?)
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"Religion of Peace"?

I think not.

"Cult of Carnage" is more fitting.

4 posted on 08/20/2006 12:07:28 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative
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Imagine this being a Nazi rally in 1940, or a rally for Imperial Japan in 1942.

Sheer lunacy that we let the enemy gather and cheer for our demise under the guise of "tolerance and free speech."

5 posted on 08/20/2006 12:10:50 PM PDT by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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"claimed he is prepared to become a suicide bomber." .....Yeah, that means, prepared to sacrifice some young brainwashed kid to do the job.


6 posted on 08/20/2006 12:12:34 PM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (If Bin Laden kidnapped Jimmy Carter, would you care?)
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Got news for ya, Dr. Assman, the war on terrorism IS a
war on Islam. How many terrorists are running around who
aren't MOOOslims?


7 posted on 08/20/2006 12:15:10 PM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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Here's hoping that there are some British agents in that crowd keeping tally of potential jihadists.


8 posted on 08/20/2006 12:20:57 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican (Everyone that doesn't like what America and President Bush has done for Iraq can all go to HELL)
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"Martyrs are those who stand up and stand up in defiance of George Bush and Tony Blair. "You stand up to them and you say desist. Stop this injustice. Stop this oppression. "We are Muslims in Europe, not European Muslims. "Being fair and just means finding the middle path. "The middle path is not rubbing shoulders with Tony Blair and George Bush.

What hogwash.

The Muslims are not killing themselves because of Blair and Bush. This is just a convenient excuse. They die for Allah, fighting against non- Muslims of any stripe;thereby, according to their Islamic beliefs gaining paradise.

Muslims killing infidels is not about people, or politics, or poverty or grievances or country or family: it is about doing what God(Allah) wants done according to the Koran and Hadiths so they can attain paradise.

These infidel killers will have the support of the so- called moderate Muslims because the moderates know deep down the killers are doing the right thing, and the moderates haven't the guts to do it yet, so they can't openly disown those who kill for Islam.

But the moderates can at least provide for a community in Infidel countries for the Islamic fundamentalists to hide in. They do this by emigrating to Infidel lands. Heretical Muslins who disagree with the fundamentalists and speak out, will get killed just like us Infidels. - Tom

9 posted on 08/20/2006 12:29:18 PM PDT by Capt. Tom (Don't confuse the Bushies with the dumb Republicans - Capt. Tom)
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They ALL need to die. Satisfy their bloodlust for martyrdom. Hunt them down and kill them. Scatter their ashes to the wind.


10 posted on 08/20/2006 12:34:37 PM PDT by shankbear
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"Middle path?" I'd hate to see what this fool considers to be "extreme."


11 posted on 08/20/2006 12:36:23 PM PDT by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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To: BW2221
Well I haave one Question. According to the Koran August 22, next Tuesday is the day the Mohammed is suppose to come back to earth on a winged stallion to Jeruselem, to fight the apocolyse.

When he is a no show, what will all the Muslim do?

12 posted on 08/20/2006 12:37:48 PM PDT by marty60
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To: DTogo

I am confident that the only reason they are not deported or "missing" is that they are all under surveillance; better to let them run their mouths thinking the Brits are sissies, all the while giving up their international links and contacts.


13 posted on 08/20/2006 12:42:12 PM PDT by giobruno
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What would Swearengen do? He would stand around and smile, trace all their supporters and financial backers as far as he could track them, and then, after he was confident he had lined up as many as possible behind this, he would cut them down, one by one. Al for Director of the CIA.


14 posted on 08/20/2006 12:46:05 PM PDT by giobruno
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***"Fighting those who invade Muslims is a just cause.***

Fighting Muslims who invade us is a just cause.

I dont know what it takes to be considered an academic. This guy doesnt sound too bright to me if he is ready to commit suicide and become a half assed martyr for a half assed religion.

We are Muslims in Europe , not European Muslims pretty much says it all. There is no such thiing as a moderate muslim, just muslims who havent strapped on their belts yet.

The US is a country of immigrants, Immigrants who came here to become Americans. If that isnt your plan you should GTF out. If you are a guest worker with plans on working and going home, thats fine , Do it legally and dont expect us to speak your language or allow you to drive around with no insurance


15 posted on 08/20/2006 12:49:15 PM PDT by sgtbono2002 (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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>"The audience at a Muslim rally today were told that dying for your beliefs was "just" and the "greatest act of martyrdom"."

If that is what our neighbors love, we should be neighborly and give them allah martyrdumb!

islam ISLAME! Finish the Crusades!! TODAY!!!

16 posted on 08/20/2006 12:56:59 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (I'd rather be carrying a shotgun with Dick, than riding shotgun with a Kennedyl! *-0(:~{>)
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To: Capt. Tom

You nailed it. They are all totalitarians, seeking totalitarian governments where everyone does exactly what they say - or else. Moderates are destroyed.


17 posted on 08/20/2006 1:00:03 PM PDT by gotribe (It's not a religion.)
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To: marty60
Mohammad was the greatest con men of all time. Did anyone else see Allah? Did anyone witness any miracles (other than Mohammad didn't molest every nine-year old in Medina)? Did anyone question why Allah said Mo could have 14 wives while they could only have four?

If they believed that crap, I'm sure they'll overlook him being a "no show" Tuesday. If he does show, my guess is that he will have horns rather than wings.
18 posted on 08/20/2006 1:07:39 PM PDT by BW2221
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An 8,000 strong crowd in Manchester were told that Tony Blair and George Bush were not pursuing a path which was "just and fair". He said the government was attempting to make the war on terrorism a war on Islam.

Stop this injustice. Stop this oppression

Exactly what 'injustice and oppression' is he speaking of.

Oh, never mind, he must mean the 'injustice and oppression' that Muslims inflict on Christians, Jews and various other faiths and that 'homicide' bombers are their version of what is 'just and fair'.

19 posted on 08/20/2006 1:08:39 PM PDT by Dustbunny (The BIBLE - Basic instructions before leaving earth)
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20 posted on 08/20/2006 1:10:23 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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