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Johnson: Karr may be crazy, but he's not the right man
Rocky Mountain News ^ | 8/19/06 | Bill Johnson

Posted on 08/19/2006 1:44:20 PM PDT by Huntress

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John Mark Karr as much killed JonBenet Ramsey as Mickey Mouse did.

Mr. Johnson may be onto something. The more Karr talks, the less credible he gets.

1 posted on 08/19/2006 1:44:22 PM PDT by Huntress
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To: Huntress

The same day this hit the media, Drudge had an article quoting the ex-wife as saying he was in Alabama on the day of the murder.


2 posted on 08/19/2006 1:46:59 PM PDT by dsc
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To: Huntress
Unfortunately, there's a whole class of people who out of delusion or desire for notoriety, "confess" to famous crimes.

There were at least three spurious confessions to the Sacco-Vanzetti murders. Of course, at least one of those was probably elicited by a bribe from the defense team . . . so that's not exactly the same situation.

I think there's a good chance this guy is just a loon who is obsessed with the Ramsey murder and has somehow convinced himself that he did it.

The "undisclosed details" thing here won't wash. Too many people were blabbing all sorts of stuff during the initial investigation. I'm sure there were plenty of leaks that never gained any public notice.

3 posted on 08/19/2006 1:50:40 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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That's murder, not murders. Only one man was killed, a payroll guard for a shoe company in Dedham MA.

That was, in its day, the same sort of wildly notorious crime, only the fascination was with anarchists instead of the kiddie beauty pageant scene.

4 posted on 08/19/2006 1:52:08 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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I still haven't heard any explanation of what reason they have to believe that he was in boulder that day. To be fair I haven't been following this though, anybody have info or a theory?


5 posted on 08/19/2006 1:55:04 PM PDT by Battleofbritain (")
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Early reports said he knew things that only the killer would know, but they never said what those were.


6 posted on 08/19/2006 2:02:47 PM PDT by dsc
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Need todays article in the SF Chronical. Ex-wife is now changing her story. Now she says he was with here the day after Christmas.

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2006/08/19/MNGICKLEUC1.DTL


7 posted on 08/19/2006 2:05:51 PM PDT by comeon
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One Question:

Why not arrest the guy, bring him here...doo the due dilligence and check out the whole story, including DNA..and then, announce this to the Press?


8 posted on 08/19/2006 2:07:57 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Moderate Mooslims.....what's that?)
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why does this guy remind me of pee-wee herman, also some kind of pervert....


9 posted on 08/19/2006 2:09:50 PM PDT by ronnied (we are the only animals that bare our teeth in greeting...)
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Once again Boulder police are incompetent in following up on a lead given by another city on this Karr guy...in 2001 !

wonder how many unsolved crimes there are out there just because someone" didn't get back to us."


10 posted on 08/19/2006 2:20:21 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Moderate Mooslims.....what's that?)
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Why not arrest the guy, bring him here...doo the due dilligence and check out the whole story, including DNA..and then, announce this to the Press?

AND JUST WHO'S "PRESS" ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? stop and think about what you just wrote and apply it to any other scoop du-jour

11 posted on 08/19/2006 2:22:08 PM PDT by digger48
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Oh, yeah, that's going to happen, with our civic-minded and discreet press which is only interested in seeking justice and supporting law enforcement . . .

< do I need a /sarcasm tag? >

12 posted on 08/19/2006 2:33:12 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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What you said.


13 posted on 08/19/2006 2:33:26 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: comeon

That is very misleading. The article says she is checking everything she can to see if he spent "the day after Christmas" with her.

JonBenet was killed during the overnight hours between Christmas Day, December 25, and the day after, December 26. Her body was "found" on December 26, but coroner's reports estimated that she may have been killed as early as sometime before midnight on Christmas night, December 25.

It has always been a bone of contention that the Ramseys put her death date on her tombstone as December 25, 1996, when they "allegedly" didn't know the exact date of death. They just *liked* using the Christmas date (as John said, "to remind the world" of the day the world went nuts, or something to that effect).

So, if Rains, Lara Knutson Karr's attorney, has instructed her to look for receipts or pix relating to December 26, that is a problem. I wonder who told him that date - Mary Keenan Lacy? Hmmm.

I'm afraid she is being led on a wild goose chase about this. Everyone is, but especially about this crucial mistaken detail.


14 posted on 08/19/2006 2:33:34 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: AnAmericanMother; digger48

What was I thinking???!!! I was being rational...how silly. After all I was talking about the $$$$ Media.


15 posted on 08/19/2006 2:53:44 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Moderate Mooslims.....what's that?)
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To: AnAmericanMother

I've often wondered if the conviction and execution of Sacco and Vanzetti marked the beginnings of Massachusetts' leftward lurch. It's hard to believe now that Calvin Coolidge was ever the state's governor.


16 posted on 08/19/2006 2:53:48 PM PDT by Oratam
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He is smart.Getting a free pass out of a Thai jail,free ticket to America,and I don't believe he did it.When the people who are supposed to be in the know say,he had info only the killer would know,makes me wonder right there.We all know the police cant keep quiet.Look at Mel.It was out to the "news" before he was out on bond.Just being facetious,but someone or somethings are being played.No matter what,he is a scumbag of the first order.
17 posted on 08/19/2006 2:54:55 PM PDT by xarmydog
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If this is true, this is going to make a lot of people on another forum very upset.


18 posted on 08/19/2006 2:58:45 PM PDT by Hacksaw (Deport illegals the same way they came here - one at a time.)
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To: Rte66
There is this from an artical today in the Santa Rosa CA. Press Democrat paper.

In Sonoma County on Friday, Lara Knutson, Karr's second wife whom he married when she was 16, was rummaging through old photos, phone records and other family memorabilia and documents in anticipation of being a material witness in the Colorado case against her former husband, her lawyer, Michael Rains, said.

Rains emphasized that Knutson wanted to correct the misimpression of a previous comment she made recalling that she and her husband were together in Alabama on Christmas Day in 1996.

Rains said it was not an effort to establish an alibi for Karr or a vote of support for him. Rains said Knutson found her ex-husband "emotionally abusive" to their children and she was checking to see if she could determine his whereabouts at the time JonBenet was killed.

Wouldn't you remember if your husband was around or not during Christmas holidays? Especially if you have little kids.
19 posted on 08/19/2006 3:02:38 PM PDT by comeon
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The first time they asked her, it was kind of an ambush by a TV reporter and Lara answered off-the-cuff, from behind her front door, which was just partially opened.

She said she didn't recall any Christmases spent apart from the time they married in 1989 until they separated in 2001. They lived in AL at the time and she has since said that they were dirt poor. The assumption was that he couldn't just jump on a plane and fly to Boulder, much less without her and/or the children, ages 5,4,3 at the time,knowing.

People took that as an alibi. Then the media interviewed one of his brothers, Nate, in Atlanta, who said he thought the whole family was together in Atlanta, where Nate and JMK's father both live, as they always were.

So, people started questioning whether John Mark Karr was in Alabama or in Atlanta on Christmas Day, 1996.

Lara got an attorney and he has been her spokesperson ever since. He's not all that briefed on the JBR case, so he's going to say things that might not gibe with what case-followers would expect. (Poor guy!)

Personally, I don't care whether they were all in Alabama or in Atlanta. I just hope there is some kind of proof that he was there. And that they aren't misled into thinking that December 26, when JBR's body was found, is the actual date of death.

Hours might be crucial here and Lin Wood is bound to make more big deals about the Atlanta confluence, too - which really doesn't relate to anything at all, except him - and to John Andrew's alibi.


20 posted on 08/19/2006 3:39:14 PM PDT by Rte66
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