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GOP Convention: Positions on Bond Measures will Define the GOP
FlashReport ^ | 8/19/06 | Jon Fleischman

Posted on 08/19/2006 11:34:43 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

Your trusty FlashReport Publisher has been to every State GOP Convention since 1988 and I can tell you that as far as these events go, this one is perhaps one of the most sparsely attended gatherings to which I have ever been. Why is the attendance so low? First and foremost, it is a weekend in August, which traditionally is vacation time for many people. That has been a factor with a number of people who told me ahead of time that they would not be here. But the "I'm on vacation" cases do feed into a bigger set of folks who are not here. Those people, and I have spoken to a lot of them, just did not feel like making participation in this convention a priority. This is not an indicator of support or lack of support for the Governor or the GOP ticket -- but, it is an indicator of depth and intensity of support. Understand that the people to whom I am referring are not average Republican voters, but rather these are among the 1400 members of the Republican State Central Committee -- leaders within the party.

Our Party Chairman Duf Sundheim and other GOP big wheels such Californians for Schwarzenegger Campaign Manager Steve Schmidt are very quick to talk about extensive survey data that shows how an overwhelming percentage of Republicans are supporting Governor Schwarzenegger's re-election, and how Phil Angelides is having a lot of trouble getting core Democrats to say that they are going to vote for him. This is great news -- but is not "game, set, match" because you have to factor in the "intensity of support" issue because the real question, say for GOP voters, is not whether they will support the Governor -- it is whether they are excited and revved up to make sure they vote, and get their friends and neighbors to vote as well.

I know, because I am one, that a significant number of conservative Republicans are just not excited with the political landscape in America right now. I feel that GOP politicians at the national and state levels are in a 'disconnect' mode on two absolutely key issues important to GOP voters -- immigration reform and the proliferation of government spending.

Grassroots GOP activists (the ones I deal with a lot as I am very involved in trying to ensure a high Republican turnout in Orange County, from where I hail) are quite angry with the position of President Bush, the U.S. Senate leadership, and for that matter, Governor Schwarzenegger on the issue of illegal immigration. The fundamental disconnect comes from the fact that conservative Republicans see this is as a law and order issue, and expect public policy proposals to be shaped around the idea that these 12 million or so folks are criminal aliens, that they have broken the law. Instead, there seems to be some sort of "these folks just want to be part of the American dream" sympathy play at hand. Well, that's fine and dandy EXCEPT that kind of disconnect between GOP leaders and conservative voters leads to apathy. The kind of apathy that is not indicated in 'survey data' (all Republicans are loyal enough to tell a public opinion pollster how much they hate Democrats under the worst of conditions) -- but it is the kind of demoralization that shows when many hundreds of State GOP delegates find 'somewhere else' they need to be than at a convention that comes within 100 days of a very important election.

The other major issue of course is spending largesse, and this issue is largely a sore spot with Republicans because somehow the promise of Ronald Reagan, of a limited government, has been hijacked and the size and scope of the federal government is significantly larger than ever before, and this is with a Republican President and Republican majorities in Congress. The problem is best optimized when even the Congress (which is a tad more conservative in its policies than the Senate) cannot even must up the votes to cut federal spending across-the-board by even 2% let alone 5% or 10%. With the fattening of the bureaucracy in Washington comes a rise in cynicism of Republicans nationally. So take this as a framework when we then look at the fact that here in California, the Governor is championing a historic package of borrowing tens of millions of dollars through bonds to finance a radical agenda of 'build-build-build' here in the Golden State. The reality is that this message is just what we do NOT need to be bringing to conservative voters. And here this weekend, the absence of so many conservative delegates increases the likelihood that the remaining GOPers might sign off on support of one or more of these packages because of top-down pressure to do so combined with the fact that everyone is so scared of Phil Angelides' potential victory that they don't want to give the Governor a black eye.

Well, I can say this with no hesitation -- the very best thing that Republicans can do at this convention is to vote NO on all five of the bond measures that the Governor is supporting this November. This is because it is the job of the party to turn out Republican voters on election day. The Governor's support of the measures might arguably help him to get moderate Democrat, Decline-to-State, and Republican voters who vote to cast a ballot for him. But motivating and turnout out hard-core GOP base voters will be a lot more difficult for the Republican Party if we embrace massive government spending as a political party.

The argument against all five bond measures is simple, and is the same. The state government already takes in a mammoth amount of money from taxpayers each year -- the budget this year was well over a HUNDRED BILLION dollars, with state revenues higher than ever in the history of California. Assembly Republicans championed a pay-as-you-go system for using current dollars to pay for infrastructure. That was the right thing to do. By passing these bonds measures, we say that instead of using the more-than-adequate tax dollars already collected to pay for infrastructure, we will borrow the money to do so, and then the liberals who control the legislature can continue to spend like drunken sailors on their social engineering programs. As a matter of fact, considerable pressure will be off of Democrats to do the right thing, as they chortle over another vast amount of money going to feed the government behemoth.

So this morning I will be going to testify against the party endorsing these spending proposals. I'll report back to the thousands of FR readers as to whether my arguments were compelling or not. But I will tell you this -- the GOP is at a crossroads here, and to embrace the spending packages this weekend is equivalent to turning a deaf ear to the concerns of grassroots Republicans who are unhappy with the over-spending by government.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: bondmeasures; california; define; election2006; gop; gopconvention; lincolnclub; mainstreet; newmajority; newmajorityrinos; positions; rmsp

1 posted on 08/19/2006 11:34:46 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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..the very best thing that Republicans can do at this convention is to vote NO on all five of the bond measures that the Governor is supporting this November.

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The argument against all five bond measures is simple, and is the same. The state government already takes in a mammoth amount of money from taxpayers each year -- the budget this year was well over a HUNDRED BILLION dollars, with state revenues higher than ever in the history of California. Assembly Republicans championed a pay-as-you-go system for using current dollars to pay for infrastructure. That was the right thing to do.


Somehow, it's never enough for some, tho, primarily the socialists ... with a few special interests on the side who want even more more more...

2 posted on 08/19/2006 11:40:55 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......Help the "Pendleton 8' and families -- http://www.freerepublic.com/~normsrevenge/)
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To: NormsRevenge
"The argument against all five bond measures is simple, and is the same. The state government already takes in a mammoth amount of money from taxpayers each year -- the budget this year was well over a HUNDRED BILLION dollars, with state revenues higher than ever in the history of California. Assembly Republicans championed a pay-as-you-go system for using current dollars to pay for infrastructure. That was the right thing to do."

Of course this is absolutely correct. The five bond measures are a guaranteed NO vote by the six votes in this family (and perhaps a seventh, if we can convince her).

3 posted on 08/19/2006 1:18:09 PM PDT by Czar ( StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: NormsRevenge; GVgirl; ElkGroveDan; Carry_Okie; dalereed; tubebender; marsh2; Jim Robinson
I'd like to comment on the reason(s) for what he called the lowest turnout for a CONvention in CAGOP history since 1988.

Many elderly Republicans do not like and get very uncomfortable with any need for having to combat, or be combative about issues that they believe had become "settled issues" in the Party Platform!

Rather than go to a CONvention and engage in any form of militancy reminds them too much of the constant "infighting" of detested Democrats.

They'll just avoid it and dream of days gone by under the 11th commandment that they dearly loved!!! They even despise hard-hitting campaigns as too "dirty" and unbecoming the kind of candidate they like to support.

So nowadays, we have younger "moderates" that don't think we need all these "militant social conservatives" that actually go out and "demonstrate" just like the Democrat heathens that make them uncomfortable. So everybody stays home to keep out of each other's faces!!!

The "in your face" struggles that the party REALLY needs to clear the air with, which are not happening and far too many gutless Republicans will not stand up for what should be the foundational, constitutional issues of individual rights and economic freedom from government being the only growth industry in huge parts of CA!!!

This is the classic case of evil taking over when good men and women DO NOTHING!!! DON'T EVEN SHOW UP!!!

Government is run by those who show up!!!

4 posted on 08/19/2006 3:14:41 PM PDT by SierraWasp (I'm voting on everything except CA Governor this year cause there's NOTHING to vote "for"!!!)
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To: SierraWasp
Government is run by those who show up!!!

Bingo! Waspman get's ElkGroveDan's Post of the Month Award.


5 posted on 08/19/2006 3:38:03 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (California bashers will be called out)
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To: SierraWasp
Government is run by those who show up!!!

Well stated Wasp. Consevatives can't:

influence outcomes by their absence.
fire a musket unless they pick it up
vote with their feet.

California is almost to the point that <15% of the elbible voters can form a majority.

LESS THAN FIFTEEN PERCENT

6 posted on 08/19/2006 3:39:00 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: SierraWasp

Personally i'll vote no on all the bond issues and either a 3rd party candidate for gov. or withold my vote.

I'm a seasoned citizen and goody two shoes campaigns flat turn my stomach. The dirtyer they are the better as far as i'm concerned.

As far as the state party, it's the lowest in history due to the # of elected people that can appoint members. The lowest it ever was in the 18 years that I was a voting member was 1982, the last year that I was there, at 1800 members.

The state party has been totally hyjacked by Bush/Rove and the conservatives have been kicked out.

It's time to fold the tent and form a new party and send the Republican party to the dust bin of history along with the Whigs.


7 posted on 08/19/2006 3:39:47 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: NormsRevenge; SierraWasp; ElkGroveDan; dalereed
Putting Arnold aside, there are lots of reasons that should motivate everyone to vote in November.
It is time to truly launch that "FEAR" campaign the CAGOP tried in the last November election.

The selection in this election frightens me a whole lot more than last time.
Here are a few that are most prominent in my mind:

And on a positive note, the most prominent reasons to vote:


8 posted on 08/19/2006 5:16:09 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl; All

fyi

Schwarzenegger appeals to conservatives on immigration ^
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1686638/posts


9 posted on 08/19/2006 5:18:07 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......Help the "Pendleton 8' and families -- http://www.freerepublic.com/~normsrevenge/)
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To: calcowgirl

I've never missed voting in any election in the last 48 years and don't intend to miss the next one.


10 posted on 08/19/2006 5:18:32 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: dalereed

Your record is stellar! I think I can say the same for the last decade, but before that I was less attentive.

Fleishman implies that people are not motivated by the top of the ticket and that it is tough to rally the conservatives to get the needed turnout.
I was just offering some reasons to rally around.


11 posted on 08/19/2006 5:29:28 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: NormsRevenge; dalereed

Dang! They endorsed the transportation bond? Neutral on the education bond?

You're right, dalereed. The state party has been totally hijacked by big-spending, big-government imposters.


12 posted on 08/19/2006 5:32:08 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl
Dang! They endorsed the transportation bond? Neutral on the education bond?

Actually that was Sundheim's stacked resolutions committee. The full convention will vote tomorrow. It's usually much more conservative than the committees full of appointed people who hang out at the fashionable country clubs.

13 posted on 08/19/2006 5:50:55 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (California bashers will be called out)
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To: ElkGroveDan

WHEW! Well thank goodness!

Fingers crossed that the full convention will put down Dufus's borrowing brigade.


14 posted on 08/19/2006 5:55:31 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: NormsRevenge
also at the convention..

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California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger ... after speaking at California Republican Party state convention, in Los Angeles on Saturday, Aug. 19, 2006. (AP Photo/Matt Sayles)

15 posted on 08/19/2006 11:02:15 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......Help the "Pendleton 8' and families -- http://www.freerepublic.com/~normsrevenge/)
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