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Experts Fault Reasoning in Surveillance Decision
The New York Times ^ | August 19, 2006 | ADAM LIPTAK

Posted on 08/19/2006 5:53:41 AM PDT by libstripper

Even legal experts who agreed with a federal judge’s conclusion on Thursday that a National Security Agency surveillance program is unlawful were distancing themselves from the decision’s reasoning and rhetoric yesterday.

They said the opinion overlooked important precedents, failed to engage the government’s major arguments, used circular reasoning, substituted passion for analysis and did not even offer the best reasons for its own conclusions.

Discomfort with the quality of the decision is almost universal, said Howard J. Bashman, a Pennsylvania lawyer whose Web log provides comprehensive and nonpartisan reports on legal developments.

“It does appear,” Mr. Bashman said, “that folks on all sides of the spectrum, both those who support it and those who oppose it, say the decision is not strongly grounded in legal authority.”

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: annadiggstaylor; govwatch; judgetaylor; judiciary; nsa; nytreasontimes; surveilance; taylor; wot
This is the Slimes' way of saying Judge Anna Diggs Taylor is a partisan legal nitwit who nevertheless reached the result the Slimes wanted. It's a really hilarious read that shows the good judge should be shipped off the the nearest assisted living facility as soon as the men the the white coats can come to pick her up.
1 posted on 08/19/2006 5:53:41 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: libstripper

And just who appointed this giant of judicial intellect to the bench?


2 posted on 08/19/2006 5:56:39 AM PDT by dasboot
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To: libstripper
46 page decision, 43 of which were pure politics, from a Jimmuh Judge that is the clone of Darth Vader Ginsburg. Thank the ACLU and a handful of muzzie lawyahs on their payroll, with background prep provided by a bunch of RDDB's from NYU.
3 posted on 08/19/2006 5:57:34 AM PDT by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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To: libstripper
The NYT editorial page praised the opinion and the reasoning behind it.

Start the countdown for this reporter's career at the NYT........

4 posted on 08/19/2006 5:57:47 AM PDT by LiberationIT
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To: dasboot

Jimmy Carter, the worst president in American history, WHO ELSE???


5 posted on 08/19/2006 5:57:57 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: xcamel

HA! Jimmeh was my first guess. TX


6 posted on 08/19/2006 5:58:34 AM PDT by dasboot
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To: libstripper

It's pretty bad when this is the best the Slimes can do in spinning this decision (their op-ed doesn't count since it was fact-free).


7 posted on 08/19/2006 5:59:06 AM PDT by dirtboy (This tagline has been photoshopped)
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To: libstripper

She's an affirmative action judge with Marxist roots. What a deadly combination!


8 posted on 08/19/2006 6:00:12 AM PDT by zook ("We all knew someone in primary school who had a really powerful magnet")
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To: libstripper
This case was decided in the Michigan Eastern region court. Sure, it was forum and judge shopping but; could the proximity to Dearborn have played a role? The Judge's authority is not nationwide, but may include Dearborn. If it does include Dearborn, the government has to stop the program in that area under Ms. Taylor's authority.

Anyone know?

9 posted on 08/19/2006 6:02:47 AM PDT by LiberationIT
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To: LiberationIT

I believe her district covers New Feluja and West Kandahar.


10 posted on 08/19/2006 6:06:25 AM PDT by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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To: LiberationIT

This judge's decision really had nothing to do with proximity to Dearborn. Diggs-Taylor is a longstanding left winger. She would have made this decision anywhere.

If the administration had not appealed the ruling, I believe it would be in effect across the country, not just in that circuit. Since the appeal, her ruling is quashed until such time it is upheld by a higher court.


11 posted on 08/19/2006 6:07:03 AM PDT by zook ("We all knew someone in primary school who had a really powerful magnet")
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To: zook
I know that the Judge is a moonbat.

But I also have heard that the ruling is in effect in her jurisdiction.

I would not be surprised to find the plaintiffs (including CAIR) picked this circuit to include Dearborn so they could point to people who claim their speech was "chilled" by the wiretapping.

But, I still wonder if the judge's ruling is in effect and if it covers Dearborn. That could be an advantage to the terrorists and something the judge could have to answer for in the future.

12 posted on 08/19/2006 6:42:43 AM PDT by LiberationIT
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To: libstripper
LOL....this is 180 degrees out of phases with what the NYT editorial page said about the decision the day after it was released.
13 posted on 08/19/2006 7:42:44 AM PDT by Doctor Raoul (New York Times? Get a rope!)
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To: libstripper

More than twenty five years later, America is still suffering from the Jimmah Carter's mistakes.


14 posted on 08/19/2006 7:44:10 AM PDT by Doctor Raoul (New York Times? Get a rope!)
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To: LiberationIT

Right now the ruling is not in effect, in Dearborn or anywhere else.


15 posted on 08/19/2006 9:07:39 AM PDT by zook ("We all knew someone in primary school who had a really powerful magnet")
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To: libstripper

A tendentious, reckless and fatuous judicial ruling forces this country into harms way by maintaining the 2001 legislation “to use all necessary and appropriate force” did not include electronic surveillance. However, communication intelligence has been a precondition to, and inherent within successful military operations at least since Sun Tzu discussed foreknowledge over 2,000 years ago. Through four presidents and 15 major terrorist attacks, we fled into illusions war was not declared upon us. This ruling perpetuates such derangements.

A barbaric pestilence arising from Muslim heresies seeks to consume us, and we are squandering a precious, perishable opportunity to thwart extraordinarily creative and lethal initiatives. The technological barriers to abundant human slaughter have fallen. Production of chemical and biological weapons can now be accomplished in cottage industries, or produced in duel use facilities, resembling creameries and breweries. For nuclear weapons, now fifty-year old technologies produced the Davy Crockett missile firing a 51-pound warhead yielding .01-kiloton, and the Astor nuclear torpedo carrying a Hiroshima size warhead. The Islamic cults, which infected Muslim faith within the 20th-Century, perceive human death as both means and end for their orthodoxy. They do not postulate a viable remnant for infrastructure or people, even including their own families, tribes and countries.

The Constitution, properly understood, assumes a viable, organized society housing civil liberties, and vigorous Commander in Chief powers, not encumbered by unrestrained dogma, to counter at inception these looming, incalculable miseries.


16 posted on 08/19/2006 9:52:23 AM PDT by Retain Mike
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To: Doctor Raoul

The most this author can say for her opinion is, "She's a nitwit, but she's our nitwit."


17 posted on 08/19/2006 4:56:47 PM PDT by libstripper
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