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RUSH LIMBAUGH LIVE THREAD FRIDAY AUGUST 18, 2006
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Posted on 08/18/2006 8:47:18 AM PDT by MNJohnnie

A couple of articles why the NSA ruling by the Carter Appointee is so much garbage.

http://levin.nationalreview.com/

By Mark Levin

Judge Not

Are there no limits to which activist judges won’t go to advance their political and policy agendas? Answer: No. I wrote an entire book about it. And U.S. District Judge Anna Diggs Taylor, appointed in the twilight of the Carter administration, is the latest in a long list of disgraceful lawyers who abuse their power.

There are four things that strike me most about Taylor’s opinion. First, she grants standing to such plaintiffs as the ACLU, CAIR, Greenpeace, National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers, Christopher Hitchens, and others, without a shred of information showing any connection between the plaintiffs’ assertions of constitutional violations and any harm to them. However, Taylor reveals herself in this excerpt from her ruling:

… [T]he court need not speculate upon the kind of activity the Plaintiffs want to engage in – they want to engage in conversations with individuals abroad without fear that their First Amendment rights are being infringed upon. Therefore, this court concludes that Plaintiffs have satisfied the requirement of alleging “actual or threatened injury” as a result of Defendants’ conduct

Taylor writes later:

Although this court is persuaded that Plaintiffs have alleged sufficient injury to establish standing, it is important to note that if the court were to deny standing based on the unsubstantiated minor distinctions drawn by Defendants, the President’s action in warrantless wiretapping, in contravention of FISA, Title III, and the First and Fourth Amendments, would be immunized from judicial scrutiny. …

In other words, if Taylor had ruled properly and found that the Plaintiffs had no standing to bring their lawsuit, she would have denied herself the ability to strike down the NSA intercept program by throwing out the lawsuit.

Second, Taylor fails to address adequately that which has been debated here and elsewhere for months, i.e., the president’s inherent constitutional powers as commander-in-chief, and the long line of court cases (and historical evidence) related to it.

Third, in many places, the opinion reads like a political screed.

Fourth, Taylor insists on the immediate implementation of her decision, meaning that the NSA must stop intercepting enemy communications at this very moment, unless it succeeds in getting judicial relief elsewhere.

The ACLU et al have won the day, as they often do these days when they take their agenda to our courts. Forum shopping works. The judiciary does not.

The opinion is here. (H/T: Andy McCarthy)

UPDATE: This from the Justice Department: "The parties have also agreed to a stay of the injunction until the District Court can hear the Department's motion for a stay pending appeal."

UPDATE II: Just to be clear, Taylor ruled that the president/NSA violated the FISA, Title III, the First and Fourth Amendments, and the Separation of Powers doctrine.


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To: hattend
Just another big moonbat script reading moron.
441 posted on 08/18/2006 11:20:49 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27
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To: hattend

He said he was 45.


442 posted on 08/18/2006 11:20:53 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia (Democrats, Euroweenies, and the MSM--the Axis of Appeasement)
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To: ChicagoConservative27; All

If he voted for Reagan, then I voted for John Kerry this past election....


443 posted on 08/18/2006 11:21:06 AM PDT by KevinDavis (http://www.cafepress.com/spacefuture)
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To: ChicagoConservative27
"He said he voted for Reagan twice.."

If he is 41 then that would mean he voted for Reagan when he was 15.

444 posted on 08/18/2006 11:21:25 AM PDT by 728b (Never cry over something that can not cry over you.)
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To: hattend

I thought he said he was 46...but he's FOS anyway.


445 posted on 08/18/2006 11:21:42 AM PDT by Clint N. Suhks (If you don't love Jesus, you can go to hell.)
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To: angcat

It's stupid people like this guy that ALMOST make me rethink my stand on abortion. If stupid liberals are bound and determined to kill their own kids, maybe RvW should be left alone. It spares the rest of the country from having to deal with their kids in 18 years after being messed up and turned into liberals like their screwed up parents. I don't know. I have that thought some time. I hate abortion, but when I hear stupid people like this that pass on their ignorance and stupidity on a generational level, it really makes me wonder.


446 posted on 08/18/2006 11:21:51 AM PDT by TexasPatriot8 (Irrational is the person who is offended by the mention of a God that he doesn't believe exists.)
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To: hattend

Why did Rush spend 10+ minutes on this guy? Sometimes, he gets into this teaching mode and I mean that as a complement, but it is like he lost steam with this dip ship.


447 posted on 08/18/2006 11:21:54 AM PDT by bwteim (bwteim: Begin With The End In Mind)
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To: hattend

You knocked that out of the park! Think you sent that one into ORBIT!

448 posted on 08/18/2006 11:22:13 AM PDT by RasterMaster (Winning Islamic hearts and minds.........one bullet at a time!)
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To: KevinDavis
Just like i will vote for Blago..
449 posted on 08/18/2006 11:22:21 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Oh, I missed that...I'm just going by what is posted here...I saw a lot of "41"s

Okay, he's old enough.

Still a Liar


450 posted on 08/18/2006 11:22:22 AM PDT by hattend (Stop! No more! The spirit is willing but the flesh is spongy and bruised! - Zapp Brannigan:)
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To: angcat
Remember that one Rush show years ago when a call like this was pretty early, and the rest of the show became calls about how they made it in America. Most inspirational 3-hr Rush EVER! He needs to make that one available for the weekend.
451 posted on 08/18/2006 11:22:29 AM PDT by MaestroLC ("Let him who wants peace prepare for war."--Vegetius, A.D. Forth Century)
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To: angcat

I should say, make me rethink my stand of not allowing it. I'll always oppose it strongly, but stupid people like that caller make me wonder if it should be allowed for people that want it, to spare the political gene pool, even though I oppose it strongly.


452 posted on 08/18/2006 11:22:53 AM PDT by TexasPatriot8 (Irrational is the person who is offended by the mention of a God that he doesn't believe exists.)
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To: American Quilter

I think this is a fake call - he is not what he says he is. started out really dumb and needed education and ended up being really dumb and would not recognize wise words if they hit him in the face.

Another thing -- the 'born agains' I know are strong Republicans and do not talk like this 42 yr old guy from Aspin. He is, what are they called, ceral callers!


453 posted on 08/18/2006 11:22:54 AM PDT by malia ("How do you get a ceasefire with terrorists"? John Bolton)
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To: MaestroLC

I'm shocked the caller did not say, he voted for Reagan twice, and GWB twice.


454 posted on 08/18/2006 11:23:42 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27
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To: MNJohnnie

Who are the Muslim lawyers involved in this? Do these lawyers work for the ACLU?


455 posted on 08/18/2006 11:23:53 AM PDT by BIGZ
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To: MaestroLC

"Lucky sperm club." LOL!


456 posted on 08/18/2006 11:24:20 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Love is the fusion of two souls in one in order to bring about mutual perfection." -S. Terese Andes)
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To: MaestroLC; All

"Remember that one Rush show years ago when a call like this was pretty early, "


Anybody remember James from Dakota (forgot north or south). Back in 97 or 98. That guy had a rant that could not be stopped. He was great.


457 posted on 08/18/2006 11:24:35 AM PDT by bwteim (bwteim: Begin With The End In Mind)
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To: TexasPatriot8

"Lucky Sperm Club"...ROFL!


458 posted on 08/18/2006 11:25:25 AM PDT by RasterMaster (Winning Islamic hearts and minds.........one bullet at a time!)
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To: BIGZ

John Kerry is a Winthrop -- part of the Mayflower club


459 posted on 08/18/2006 11:25:28 AM PDT by acsrp38 (Found: WMD Saddam didn't have before he didn't have them)
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To: Clint N. Suhks
The Supremes vote on whether or not to grant cert...and last time I counted there were 5 of them and 4 of us.

Not on this case, IMHO. First, the Standing precedents are going to be HARD to overcome. If Rehnquist did anything right, there is a huge corpus of law requiring absolute and not speculative harm (which this clearly is) before you even get to make your case. Kennedy and even Breyer signed onto most of those. Secondly, you never get to the Constitutional precedents when you can decide on Statutory elements. Diggs-Taylor totally dismissed the Authorizaion of Force arguments which in many other cases has been held to pretty much approve Executive power. So I don't think they get past the Court of Appeals.

460 posted on 08/18/2006 11:25:36 AM PDT by LibertyLee (George W. Bush a Great President--US out of the UN and US out of the UN!)
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