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RUSH LIMBAUGH LIVE THREAD FRIDAY AUGUST 18, 2006
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Posted on 08/18/2006 8:47:18 AM PDT by MNJohnnie

A couple of articles why the NSA ruling by the Carter Appointee is so much garbage.

http://levin.nationalreview.com/

By Mark Levin

Judge Not

Are there no limits to which activist judges won’t go to advance their political and policy agendas? Answer: No. I wrote an entire book about it. And U.S. District Judge Anna Diggs Taylor, appointed in the twilight of the Carter administration, is the latest in a long list of disgraceful lawyers who abuse their power.

There are four things that strike me most about Taylor’s opinion. First, she grants standing to such plaintiffs as the ACLU, CAIR, Greenpeace, National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers, Christopher Hitchens, and others, without a shred of information showing any connection between the plaintiffs’ assertions of constitutional violations and any harm to them. However, Taylor reveals herself in this excerpt from her ruling:

… [T]he court need not speculate upon the kind of activity the Plaintiffs want to engage in – they want to engage in conversations with individuals abroad without fear that their First Amendment rights are being infringed upon. Therefore, this court concludes that Plaintiffs have satisfied the requirement of alleging “actual or threatened injury” as a result of Defendants’ conduct

Taylor writes later:

Although this court is persuaded that Plaintiffs have alleged sufficient injury to establish standing, it is important to note that if the court were to deny standing based on the unsubstantiated minor distinctions drawn by Defendants, the President’s action in warrantless wiretapping, in contravention of FISA, Title III, and the First and Fourth Amendments, would be immunized from judicial scrutiny. …

In other words, if Taylor had ruled properly and found that the Plaintiffs had no standing to bring their lawsuit, she would have denied herself the ability to strike down the NSA intercept program by throwing out the lawsuit.

Second, Taylor fails to address adequately that which has been debated here and elsewhere for months, i.e., the president’s inherent constitutional powers as commander-in-chief, and the long line of court cases (and historical evidence) related to it.

Third, in many places, the opinion reads like a political screed.

Fourth, Taylor insists on the immediate implementation of her decision, meaning that the NSA must stop intercepting enemy communications at this very moment, unless it succeeds in getting judicial relief elsewhere.

The ACLU et al have won the day, as they often do these days when they take their agenda to our courts. Forum shopping works. The judiciary does not.

The opinion is here. (H/T: Andy McCarthy)

UPDATE: This from the Justice Department: "The parties have also agreed to a stay of the injunction until the District Court can hear the Department's motion for a stay pending appeal."

UPDATE II: Just to be clear, Taylor ruled that the president/NSA violated the FISA, Title III, the First and Fourth Amendments, and the Separation of Powers doctrine.


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To: Pyro7480
What about him? Link? From yesterday's LIVE Thread: AG Gonzalez to comment on NSA wiretap ruling thread. Posted by Vn_survivor_67-68 at reply #57.

Here is the info

221 posted on 08/18/2006 10:07:01 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (The media and the democrats are the biggest supporters of the terrorists.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Oh she does. Die-hard West by God Virginia Dem. Ma Maw was a Dem. Ma was a Dem. I'm a Dem.


222 posted on 08/18/2006 10:07:05 AM PDT by Roccus
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To: mewzilla
Where there's life, there's hope :)

I sorry a Clinton Judgesruled that saying was an infringement on the Whine All the Time Choir's 1st Amendment to pout non stop. That has been changed to "Where there is life, there is mope."

223 posted on 08/18/2006 10:07:12 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (History shows us that if you are not willing to fight, you better be prepared to die)
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To: ChicagoConservative27
From ruling:

"The Plaintiffs in this case are not claiming simply that the Defendants' surveillance has "chilled" them from making international calls to sources and clients. Rather, they claim that Defendants' surveillance has chilled their sources, clients, and potential witnesses from communicating with them. The alleged effect on Plaintiffs is a concrete, actual inability to communicate with witnesses, sources, clients and others without great expense which has significantly crippled Plaintiffs, at a minimum, in their ability to report the news and competently and effectively represent their clients."

224 posted on 08/18/2006 10:07:12 AM PDT by bwteim (bwteim: Begin With The End In Mind)
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To: rightinthemiddle

225 posted on 08/18/2006 10:07:21 AM PDT by Sensei Ern (Nothing says security like the smell of gunpowder.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

They are MUSLIM.....they won their lawsuit against NSA wiretapping....HOLY SH*T! We are cutting our own throats!!!!!!!!!!


226 posted on 08/18/2006 10:07:40 AM PDT by Blue Turtle
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To: LibertyLee

Dems are just showing the socialists they are, going after Wal Mart.


227 posted on 08/18/2006 10:07:44 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27
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To: Sensei Ern

bttt


228 posted on 08/18/2006 10:08:38 AM PDT by Txsleuth (((((((ISRAEL))))))))
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To: AliVeritas

Boy is that ever accurate. Great commentary. That says it all. Though at this point, I think Jimmah Cateh is more like a bad V.D.. He may go dormant for a while, but every so often he will crop up again, causing itching, redness, and swealling, and there is no cure, he's always there, waiting to cause irritation in the future.


229 posted on 08/18/2006 10:08:40 AM PDT by TexasPatriot8 (Irrational is the person who is offended by the mention of a God that he doesn't believe exists.)
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To: Roccus
Here's another at Schlussel's website. Scroll down about a quarter of the way for the story...

NSA-Opposing Judge Engaged in Misconduct

230 posted on 08/18/2006 10:09:12 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: ChicagoConservative27
Dems are just showing the socialists they are, going after Wal Mart.

You bet; I don't like Costco because you have to buy things in such bulk that things go bad or you don't use them ... Walmart is perfect for two people's needs and a Superstore gets you fresh lobster when you want them! Oh, that's right, cooking lobster is a PETA violation...TOUGH!!

231 posted on 08/18/2006 10:10:02 AM PDT by LibertyLee (George W. Bush a Great President--US out of the UN and US out of the UN!)
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To: All
Regarding Rush's: "The ACLU lawyers in this case are Muslims." Here is reference to Mohammed Abdrabboh

From ruling:

"... must communicate with individuals abroad whom the United States government believes to be terrorist suspects or to be associated with terrorist organizations.12
In addition, attorneys Nancy Hollander, William Swor, Joshua Dratel, Mohammed Abdrabboh, and Nabih Ayad indicate that they must also communicate with individuals abroad whom the United States government believes to be terrorist suspects or to be associated with terrorist organizations,13 and must discuss confidential information over the phone and email with their international clients.14"

232 posted on 08/18/2006 10:10:26 AM PDT by bwteim (bwteim: Begin With The End In Mind)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Well, like with all other things, the law doesn't apply to liberals, or Muslims. The irony is, the liberals are the ones in America that the Muslims most hate, because the liberals are so immoral and without ethical base. But the Muslims know that the conservatives wouldn't tolerate their radicalism, so they use the liberals to try and reach their goals, which would in the process, destroy liberalism. So ironic.


233 posted on 08/18/2006 10:10:32 AM PDT by TexasPatriot8 (Irrational is the person who is offended by the mention of a God that he doesn't believe exists.)
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To: mewzilla

Is "Forum Shopping" worse than "Doctor Shopping"?


234 posted on 08/18/2006 10:10:33 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia (Democrats, Euroweenies, and the MSM--the Axis of Appeasement)
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To: RasterMaster

***Haven't heard anything on her father yet....what do you know?***

See the link in my reply #221

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1685937/posts?page=221#221


235 posted on 08/18/2006 10:11:30 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (The media and the democrats are the biggest supporters of the terrorists.)
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To: TexasPatriot8

Carter is a whole lot more like hemorrrhoids than any VD I've heard of..........


236 posted on 08/18/2006 10:12:42 AM PDT by Unrepentant VN Vet (I can't really accept a welcome home until the last MIA does.)
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To: bwteim
Great googly moogly. That Abdrabboh guy is on the state of Michigan's website.

Vice Chair: Mohammed Abdrabboh, J.D., Dearborn - Appointed May 2003

237 posted on 08/18/2006 10:12:47 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

It's not been outlawed.


238 posted on 08/18/2006 10:13:11 AM PDT by Sensei Ern (Nothing says security like the smell of gunpowder.)
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To: Roccus

Like Rush said, it's formally called "Forum shopping", and it's just like you said. The ACLU and the Muslims are on the WRONG side of actual law, so they have to look for a stacked deck to get a ruling in their favor, they have to know that the higher courts can't be picked and chozen like that. And precedent has already been set and that will doom this pathetic ruling to being reversed thankfully.


239 posted on 08/18/2006 10:13:18 AM PDT by TexasPatriot8 (Irrational is the person who is offended by the mention of a God that he doesn't believe exists.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
Is "Forum Shopping" worse than "Doctor Shopping"?

Yes, but liberals do it ALL the time..It's technically not legal, but there is nothing in the rules that really stop it. You can file in any Court which has jurisdiction and where the venue requirements are right.

240 posted on 08/18/2006 10:13:33 AM PDT by LibertyLee (George W. Bush a Great President--US out of the UN and US out of the UN!)
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