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A Judicial Misfire [WaPo slams NSA ruling by Taylor]
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| Friday, August 18, 2006
Posted on 08/18/2006 7:44:41 AM PDT by upchuck
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WaPo articles gotta be excerpted, so here's the last three 'graphs.
Y'all might consider downloading this Lib's opinion and looking at it. Very interesting.
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posted on
08/18/2006 7:44:42 AM PDT
by
upchuck
To: upchuck
If Clinton were using the NSA to surveil rich, white Americans living or traveling abroad in order to ensure that none of them are evading taxes - I wonder how many socialists would be opposed to the program.
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posted on
08/18/2006 7:47:53 AM PDT
by
coconutt2000
(NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: upchuck
This particular jurist is a certified moonbat. A dedicated political activist, but hardly worthy of her judicial robes.
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posted on
08/18/2006 7:53:30 AM PDT
by
okie01
(The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
To: upchuck
Even the lowlifes at the WaPo understand that this 'ruling' was put out there at the request of the DNC, to be used to theoretically hammer upon the Republicans through the POTUS.
The problem is, the WaPo understands that in fact the opposite effect is what will be noticed, and the theme will once again be to shine a searchlight directly upon the Democrats low scores when it comes to national security and defense.
The WaPo also understands that this ridiculous ruling will almost assuredly not survive appeal and will ultimately once again make the dems look pathetic, IMO.
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posted on
08/18/2006 7:54:05 AM PDT
by
Pox
(If it's a Coward you are searching for, you need look no further than the Democrats.)
To: upchuck
The WaPo is a half-step better than the NY Times and the LA Times on these issues.
That's not saying much, though. It's like saying a woman is better looking than Helen Thomas, or a man is saner than Howard Dean . . .
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posted on
08/18/2006 7:54:07 AM PDT
by
cvq3842
To: upchuck
The judge may well be correct in her bottom line that the program exceeds presidential authority, even during wartime. We harbor grave doubt both that Congress authorized warrantless surveillance as part of the war and that Mr. Bush has the constitutional power to act outside of normal surveillance statutes that purport to be the exclusive legal authorities for domestic spying. But her opinion, which as the first court venture into this territory will garner much attention, is unhelpful either in evaluating or in ensuring the program's legality. So the WaPo agrees with the outcome of the Judge's ruling, but is embarrassed by her amateurish ad hominem attacks on the Administration.
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posted on
08/18/2006 7:54:16 AM PDT
by
Yo-Yo
(USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
To: IrishMike; upchuck; coconutt2000
That authorization, the administration argues, permits the wiretapping notwithstanding existing federal surveillance law; inherent presidential powers, it suggests, allow it to conduct foreign intelligence surveillance on its own authority.
Makes sense to me. Gee, ya think this is why it's soooo important to get the right people in office?! ;o)
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posted on
08/18/2006 7:54:31 AM PDT
by
Froufrou
To: upchuck
The US used to decide things through elections (even the Yippies shouted "power to the people"). Checks and balances are off-kilter due to too much power held by the judiciary.
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posted on
08/18/2006 7:57:01 AM PDT
by
P.O.E.
To: upchuck
The WAPO has received their orders from their pocket pals in the DNC. The word is out the Judge is a flaming lefty, a Carter appointee and has a father who was in serious trouble, not to mention her own involvement in Judge shopping on behalf of friends at her alma mater. What they thought was a victory is rapidly turning into another example of the hapless libs opening the door into their face. The want no part of it.
To: Yo-Yo
WaPo realizes that building a socialist nanny-state is much tougher... if Washington is turned into a glowing pile of nuclear rubble.
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posted on
08/18/2006 8:03:56 AM PDT
by
johnny7
(“And what's Fonzie like? Come on Yolanda... what's Fonzie like?!”)
To: Eagles Talon IV
has a father who was in serious trouble, not to mention her own involvement in Judge shopping on behalf of friends at her alma mater.
Huh? Elaborate, please?
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posted on
08/18/2006 8:07:58 AM PDT
by
Froufrou
To: johnny7
I have felt for a long time that the Post had information about the NSA program but chose not to publish it for national security reasons. Its editorial writers also do not suffer from BDS as do Gail Collins and her pals at the New York Times.
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posted on
08/18/2006 8:08:51 AM PDT
by
Dems_R_Losers
(Meet the new dictators of America.....Bill Keller, James Risen, Eric Lichtblau, and Dana Priest)
To: P.O.E.
The whole argument about scanning international or even national telecommunications is misplaced. The NSA program is the equivalent of scanning packages and envelopes for dangerous substances. Is the ACLU saying such scanning is unconstitutional unless you have a warrant for packages from a particular person? I for one want my packages scanned, and if they trigger a danger flag, I expect them to be further investigated with or without a warrant depending on the nature of the flag triggered. It is no different than the search procedure getting on a plane. On the other hand it is reasonable that the purposes of the scanning and the nature of the triggers should be subject to Congressional oversight. In addition there should be a clear poisoned fruit provision to limit the likelihood of misusing the results of such surveillance.
Judges like Taylor are a danger to us all.
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posted on
08/18/2006 8:17:31 AM PDT
by
bjc
(Check the data!!)
To: Froufrou
To: Eagles Talon IV
That certainly puts things in a strange light, doesn't it?
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posted on
08/18/2006 8:36:57 AM PDT
by
Froufrou
To: cvq3842
Dean Finds Timing of Terrorist Plot Suspicious
Howard Dean, chairman of the Democratic National Committee has assailed the poor timing of the recently thwarted al-Qaeda plot to blow up multiple trans-Atlantic flights from the United Kingdom to the United States. We had the Republicans on the ropes, Dean complained. All the polls showed us picking up dozens of seats in Congressenough to take back the majority and ensure the impeachment of President Bush, now this. Are these terrorists idiots? Couldnt they wait until after November?
Dean didnt confine his wrath to what he dubbed those bumbling Muslim nincompoops. He offered an alternative take on events that was more conspiratorial in nature. How do we know its not a put up job? Dean mused. Its easy to arrest people and claim they were going to launch an attack. Maybe there was no planned attack.
Dean asserted that the trigger-happy duo of Bush and Blairthe killer Bs as he called themwere, at best, escalating the violence against the U.S. and U.K. These two act as if a pluralistic society is the only acceptable way to govern, Dean said. Bush and Blair are risking our lives by foolishly espousing an abstract concept of liberty. Well, every suicide attack against us is a powerful vote for a different culture of governance. We need to take heed of these votes instead of blindly lashing out at this different point of view. The belligerence of Bush and Blair is escalating the conflict.
Dean said he still remains hopeful that memories of the alleged narrow escape from this latest terrorist attack will fade by November. Football season will be starting, therell be the World Series, a new TV seasonplenty of things to distract voters from the alleged success of Bushs war on terror, Dean said. Im confident our u-turn for America theme will convince a majority to place their trust in our party.
In related news, the ACLU expressed dismay that a key tactic in the U.K.s foiling of the plot to blow up airliners was a so-called sneak-and-peek program where British intelligence experts covertly broke into suspects homes and implanted listening devices. This was an outrageous trampling of civil rights, said ACLU spokesman, Bertram Petty. Some may find comfort in the lives saved, but we see a greater danger in the privacy lost. We must do everything we can to ensure that this kind of intrusion doesnt happen here.
read more...
http://www.azconservative.org/Semmens1.htm
To: Froufrou
She's a certified moonbat.
To: upchuck
Judge Taylor is a modern day Roland Frieseler.
To: Eagles Talon IV
They have their own club. It's very exclusive, thank God.
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posted on
08/18/2006 9:02:40 AM PDT
by
Froufrou
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