[P-Marlowe]

From 1789 to 1861, there were only five religious proclamations issued at the request of Congress.

I thought we were discussing the religious proclamations of the president. The president is a man. The president has free speech rights. Congress has only those powers delegated to it by the Constitution, and the issuing of religious proclamations is arguably not one of them.

But the president is a man. The office is vested in a man. That man has the same free speech rights and free exercise rights as president that he had as a citizen. He can make whatever religious proclamations he wants and as long as they are not binding or as long as they do not carry with them the force of law, they do not violate either the spirit or the letter of the Constitution.

I think we've beaten this horse to death. You may have the last word.

[MuddyWaters2006]

the president is a man.

True

The office is vested in a man.

True

That man has the same free speech rights and free exercise rights as president that he had as a citizen.

Mmmmm....true. But, there is no right to assume recommendatory authority over the people's religion under the guise of free speech; and the right of the President to exericse his religious sentiments according to the dictates of his conscience, does not grant him authority to use his civil office to give us relgious advice recommendation or suggestions regarding the things that are God's.

He can make whatever religious proclamations he wants

He should not issue religious advice under the color of his civil office. He should do it as a private citizen at his own expense, or he should explicitly inform us that he has authority directly from God to specifically issue specific advice to the people regarding the things that are God's; and provide us evidence to establish that he speaks for God such as telling us how, when and where this information was communicated to him by God and why we should believe him. As I recall, God has never ever granted any human being general authority to speak for him without also providing very convicing evidence of that grant of jurisdiction.

and as long as they are not binding or as long as they do not carry with them the force of law, they do not violate either the spirit or the letter of the Constitution.

God has the authority to issue us non binding religous recommendation that do not carry the force of law. Please tell me how, when and where God granted the government co-equal advisory jurisdiction with him, over matters of religion?