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1 posted on 08/17/2006 8:21:57 PM PDT by xzins
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For the court to state that if a private citizen exercises his or her First Amendment rights of religious expression and assembly on public property, that any monument, building or fixed item of any kind that contains religious references becomes 'establishment of religion' is simply irrational."

Religious expression by religious citizens = establishment of religion ping.

2 posted on 08/17/2006 8:24:03 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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ACLU delenda est.


3 posted on 08/17/2006 8:24:36 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (John Bolton for Secretary of State)
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We have NO idea of China like persecution - shame on the comparison!


4 posted on 08/17/2006 8:25:19 PM PDT by justche (If you're afraid of the future, then get out of the way, stand aside. - Ronald Reagan)
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Doesn't the USA still have the power to Impeach Justices who don't dispense justice?

This is worse than crazy. This is legislation from the bench. This is merging two branches of government and leaves the people with no balance of powers.

Did these Judges and Lawyers fail "Civics" class in 9th Grade?

Not THAT Civics. This Civics.
9 posted on 08/17/2006 8:33:46 PM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (In Memory of Crockett Nicolas, hit and run in the prime of his Cocker Spaniel life, 9/3/05.)
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"Welch told WND that the court's conclusion was "ludicrous" and if followed logically, could mean that a religious rally at any public building would therefore make the building unconstitutional so it would have to be removed."

Well, perhaps there should be a Christian rally around the courthouse in which such a ruling was made. If they refuse to take down the building, sue.

11 posted on 08/17/2006 8:35:53 PM PDT by Tench_Coxe
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" ... it became unconstitutional when a Christian group rallied around it."

Great! Let's ALL rally around all of these monkey courts and praise GOD that they exist.

Would it not then make this ignorant group of degenerate lawyers and tyrannical judges unconstitutional and illegal? Sounds like it to me.


12 posted on 08/17/2006 8:36:46 PM PDT by TimesDomain (When a judge declares himself "MASTER", you become his "SLAVE")
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What about these Amendments don't they understand?

Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.


Amendment II

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.


13 posted on 08/17/2006 8:38:35 PM PDT by ntnychik
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The ruling from the Fifth Court of Appeals said the display of a Bible on public ground in Houston to honor the founder of a mission has to go, not because it was unconstitutional itself, but because it became unconstitutional when a Christian group rallied around it.

So hold a prayer service around the Fifth Court of Appeals, and pray over each one of the justices. Then have someone sue to have it removed on the same grounds? Can we do that? I mean can we really have an entire Court of Appeals declared unconstitutional?
14 posted on 08/17/2006 8:38:37 PM PDT by yevgenie (Q. What is the first sign of AIDS? A. A pounding sensation in the ass.)
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The pastor's group said that means any monument, building, or even feature of nature is an illegal "establishment of religion" if a church ceremony is held there...It's about time Christian groups go on the offensive - instead of merely defending against the absurd idea that they are in violation of the Constitution because their practices amount to Congress making a law establishing a state religion, they should start resorting to the second Constitutinal prohibition regarding religion - that Congress shall make no law interfering with the free practice thereof - such silly rulings from the bench surely result in such interference, and maybe a few countersuits for big bucks would make some of these atheists, and even the ACLU, think twice before bringing such actions in the future.......
17 posted on 08/17/2006 8:41:29 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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Well, I guess we have to elect another conservative president who will put a few more good supreme court justices on the bench.

These screwball judges will work themselves out of the system. And we will be vigilant to keep the activist judges off the bench.

More to come later.


19 posted on 08/17/2006 8:43:50 PM PDT by jonrick46
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Was the entire court involved in this case, or is this a ruling from a single judge?
Wonder who appointed these weirdos.


20 posted on 08/17/2006 8:52:52 PM PDT by Elsiejay (.)
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Apparently these stupid a$$ judges learned to read in public schools. the first amendment clearly states that the government cannot stop anybody from exercising their religious rights. It seems to me they only read the first part of that statement and completely ignore the second part of the establishment clause.
21 posted on 08/17/2006 8:56:26 PM PDT by scottywr (democrat motto "rule in spite of the law".)
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And the twilight fades a little more to darkness.

Work while it is light friends, for the darkness is coming when no one will be able to work.


25 posted on 08/17/2006 9:49:29 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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This was written by Paul Stone of Federal Way, WA:

Reward!

Have you seen these words: "Separation of Church and State" in the U.S. Constitution?

If you can find these words in the U.S. Constitution you will have accomplished an amazing thing. The words 'separation' and 'church' do not even appear in the U.S. Constitution. Don't believe it. Check it out!

If Congress were to pass a law prohibiting prayer in school, would it violate that part of the first amendment which reads: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof . . ."?

If Congress, whose job is to create law, cannot prohibit prayer in school, how did the Supreme Court do it without violating both the first amendment and the separation of powers?

Activist judges have stolen our country and our culture. Let's take America back! Impeach activist judges!

40 posted on 08/18/2006 12:43:59 AM PDT by jonrick46
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If this ruling is as it's described here, it's absolutely outrageous.


It sounds like Christians have some sort of disease that even public monuments can catch.

Well, the only silver lining I can see is if you happen to know of a hideous piece of "art" in a public place, you can get rid of it by simply holding a prayer meeting around it...


45 posted on 08/18/2006 1:13:38 AM PDT by stands2reason (ANAGRAM for the day: Socialist twaddle == Tact is disallowed)
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Last eve I passed beside a blacksmith's door,
And heart the anvil ring the vesper chime;
Then, looking in, I saw upon the floor
Old hammers, worn with beating years of time.

How many anvils have you had," said I,
"To wear and batter all these hammers so?"
"Just one," said he, and then, with twinkling eye,
"The anvil wears the hammers out, you know."

And so, thought I, the anvil of God's Word,
For ages skeptic blows have beat upon;
Yet, though the noise of falling blows was heard,
The anvil is unharmed - the hammers gone.


50 posted on 08/18/2006 4:30:33 AM PDT by XR7
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Using the logic of this court ruling, Yankee Stadium should be removed because there was a Service of Prayer held there after 9/11. The judges, who don't understand the First Amendment's freedom of religion and speech rights any better than this, should be removed from the bench. The only religion that can be allowed under rulings such as this is atheism, something the Founders never intended.


53 posted on 08/18/2006 5:10:06 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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Knowing how many libs are in Houston, I'm not surprised by this. I lived there for 21 years and it's a filthy sess pool filled with liberals inside the beltway for the most party. Let's just see what happens when this is appealed and taken to Judges with rational. Every one of these cases more and more infuriates Conservative Americans, which are in the majority, and giving them just one more reason to go vote Republican and replace Judges like this. Most Americans are sick and tired of this anti-Christian crap. And liberals can only push so hard without being knocked down themselves.


58 posted on 08/18/2006 9:25:26 AM PDT by TexasPatriot8 (Irrational is the person who is offended by the mention of a God that he doesn't believe exists.)
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oh, I love pious "we don't know anything about persecution here and I resent the comparison" snips.

You have no idea what sort of noose is being placed around your neck.

59 posted on 08/18/2006 1:32:16 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand ("These formidable people....will die for Liberty")
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>>The pastor's group said that means any monument, building, or even feature of nature is an illegal "establishment of religion" if a church ceremony is held there.

Next up, Religious ceremonies to be held around Abortion clinics run by planned parenthood... Developing!
64 posted on 08/30/2006 7:00:52 PM PDT by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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