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LIVE Thread: AG Gonzalez to comment on NSA wiretap ruling
FNC | August 18, 2006 | FNC Press Conference

Posted on 08/17/2006 1:02:27 PM PDT by Peach

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To: JeffAtlanta

"You believe that the Bill of Rights is an exhaustive list of rights retained by the People?"

No I do not think the Bill of Rights is exhaustive. I just don't think a right to privacy is inclusive. If it was, there would be no reason to have a legislative branch of Government, since no laws could be made that would not infringe on privacy, if it was considered a right. Also, there would be no need for an executive branch of government, since no laws could be enforced. Add to that, there would be no need for a judicial branch to interpret laws, since all would be unconstitutional based on privacy rights.

I think the meaning of the term "rights" needs to be defined based on the rights in the other amendments in the Bill of Rights.


141 posted on 08/18/2006 11:18:25 PM PDT by mjaneangels@aolcom
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To: mjaneangels@aolcom
I do believe that the framers did intend that the rights of the US consistution were meant for those within this country, not for anyone and everyone in the world.

On that I agree 100%. I don't understand how anyone could believe that the constitution of the United States should apply to those that aren't citizens.

142 posted on 08/18/2006 11:34:53 PM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: antiRepublicrat
If you knew where to look, my records are probably already on the net.

Somebody's in big trouble if they are, as it is private information.

Most of the info I said was on the net is on https sites run by the military. If there is anything I don't want others to see, I can ask that specific info to be deleted from the sites.

143 posted on 08/19/2006 10:54:01 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (The media and the democrats are the biggest supporters of the terrorists.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Hey, don't you remember that the DemocRATS said all we had to do was ASK and the administration would get everything we needed to fight terrorism. Yeah, right....


144 posted on 08/19/2006 10:02:12 PM PDT by Libertina
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To: Arrowhead1952

But suppose they ignored your requests to delete.


145 posted on 08/19/2006 10:07:24 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: Arrowhead1952

And why would you be requesting to delete anyhow if you want to be the paragon of fish bowls. C'mon, post your name address and SSN right here on FR.


146 posted on 08/19/2006 10:08:03 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: mjaneangels@aolcom
Provide when, exactly, the right to privacy was found and the means that determined it.

It was first famously put into words by Justice Louis Brandeis, who talked about "a right to be left alone." It's based on the Constitution being a limit to government, not the people, and privacy being inherent in the 3rd, 4th, & 5th Amendments, which are useless without the idea of personal privacy behind them.

It is just your kind of thinking that caused fear of the Bill of Rights -- that an enumeration of rights would lead people to think that those were all the rights that existed.

147 posted on 08/22/2006 7:43:33 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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"It's based on the Constitution being a limit to government, not the people, and privacy being inherent in the 3rd, 4th, & 5th Amendments, which are useless without the idea of personal privacy behind them."

Then why didn't the founders put an explicit right to privacy in the bill of rights, rather than putting portions into 3 different amendments. Clearly, from the 3rd, 4th and 5th amendments they were thinking of some need for privacy. They could have spelled that out if that was what they intended, unless they intended to explicitly not put in a carte blanche right to privacy.


148 posted on 08/22/2006 5:59:59 PM PDT by mjaneangels@aolcom
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To: mjaneangels@aolcom
Then why didn't the founders put an explicit right to privacy in the bill of rights, rather than putting portions into 3 different amendments.

This is exactly what I was talking about, the fear of some Founding Fathers that enumerating certain rights would have people assuming that those are all the rights that existed. That was the reason for the 9th Amendment, a catch-all for any rights that they automatically assumed, but did not explicitly put into the Bill of Rights.

For example, the right to have children isn't in the Constitution, so why do we let people do it? We consider freedom of travel to and from this country to be a basic right, but I don't remember that in the Constitution either.

149 posted on 08/23/2006 6:50:57 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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