[Frumious Bandersnatch]

Well now, that is interesting. Whenever I talk to a geneticist on this subject, I ask "is evolution random?" Invariably, and without hesitation, they give me a resounding "no." If evolution is following a set of orderly rules (as I've been told time and again), why and where did those rules come from? The logical implications alone are staggering.

This also goes against Darwinists who insist on random mutation, when there is no such animal.

Why mathematically, true randomness escapes us and if mathematicians cannot achieve randomness, then what hope have evolutionists of doing so? Although, to be fair, John Dean seems to be a fairly random number.

[js1138]

Well now, that is interesting. Whenever I talk to a geneticist on this subject, I ask "is evolution random?" Invariably, and without hesitation, they give me a resounding "no."

Variation does not anticipate need. In that sense it is random.

Selection is complex and uncomputable, but not random.

Together, evolution is deterministic but not predictable. Living things do not aspire to evolve features like flagella. They do not strive to evolve in a certain direction. Mutation and genetic variation is stochastic.

[<1/1,000,000th%]

Well now, that is interesting. Whenever I talk to a geneticist on this subject, I ask "is evolution random?" Invariably, and without hesitation, they give me a resounding "no."

Randomness in evolution as creationists understand it, was invented by creationists. Biologists understand randomness in evolution to mean, randomness in the characteristics of a population.

At the genetic level, the usual rules of chemistry apply, even if they have to be determined by trial and error.

Just out of curiousity, where do you have access to all of the geneticists you ask this?