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To: stop_fascism
No, the battle is for "hearts and minds".

Ah, then you're not talking about this series of battles in Lebannon at all, then. You're not talking about military success at all.

This part of the war was a military effort. The military kills the enemy and breaks the tools they use to fight with.

This war can only be won when the vast majority of muslims reject terrorism as a tactic and accept the existence of Israel.

I will agree with that. But that is not what this battle was about. The war is not over yet, I agree. Israel won this round, big. They are safer now than they were at the start of the war.

Weapons and fighters can be replaced, but it is costly. Takes time. And they lost more than just material.

Lebannon, and every other country for that matter, is now aware that if the Hezzys use your country to attack Israel, then Israel will flatten your country.

That is a major deterrent.

Now the 'hearts and minds' thing is a problem. Militarily, we are winning. But the 'culture warriors' of our country, the ones who should be convincing these folks that targeting innocent civilians is evil, are the ones who have failed.

Hollywood. The music industry. Writers, Newspapers, TV.

They are the ones losing the war.

I honestly believe they think we deserve to lose. I honestly think they are enemy sympathizers.

95 posted on 08/17/2006 11:56:54 AM PDT by Dominic Harr (Conservative: The "ant", to a liberal's "grasshopper".)
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To: Dominic Harr

Of course, I'm talking about military success. I'm not sure Clausewitz ever wrote, "War is diplomacy by other means." but its true all the same. I agree that armies are for killing people and breaking things, but that doesn't mean that they should do it willy nilly. Even the huns and mongols had a strategy behind their destruction. I'm not complaining because Israel killed people and broke things. I'm complaining because they didn't kill enough of the right people and break enough of their things.


96 posted on 08/17/2006 1:22:10 PM PDT by stop_fascism
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