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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit
The environment tends to be a commons and therefore suffers from the trgedy of that commons. Placing a price on pollution generally only happens when people start to place a value on clean air, water, etc. over immediate economic growth. Companies just play by the rules they are given.

That philosophy will always veer liberal in the long run. People like myself can put a mostly private value on clean air. I say mostly because I benefit from 100,000 or so acres of national forest next to me. But I pay for it in spades with a 75 mile commute. Companies can move out there and hire me, offer me telecommuting options, or whatever else, but if they don't pay even 1/2 of what I'm getting now, I'm not going to consider switching. That's why economic growth is important, it gives me opportunities to save energy.

The other proof is that you in Europe and we in America have stopped our runup in energy usage and now it's the third world's turn to do so. If allowed to prosper they will be able to create the same efficiencies.

13 posted on 08/17/2006 4:47:15 AM PDT by palmer (Money problems do not come from a lack of money, but from living an excessive, unrealistic lifestyle)
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To: palmer

You didn't write anything with which I disagree.

However, there simply are not enough resources on the planet for 1-2 billion more people to run up their energy and then find efficienies later. If you don't want to talk about climate chage than how about fresh water, trees, and fish.

The reality is that there is a net loss of forests, the majority of our fisheries are at capacity or in decline, etc. etc.

I am not a "sky is falling" moonbat. I consistently advocate market/technology based solutions. But the scale of the problem and size of the investment needed, combined with pricing in of previously externatilized costs requires policy. Smart policy.

Can you explain how that is "liberal thinking"?


15 posted on 08/17/2006 4:52:26 AM PDT by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (War is Peace__Freedom is Slavery__Ignorance is Strength)
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