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Murtha Received Bronze Star V 1 Year After Service
The Daily Courier, Connellsville, PA. ^ | October 21, 1968 | SBD

Posted on 08/16/2006 5:39:51 PM PDT by SBD1

Murtha received his Bronze Star V one year after his service and during his campaign for the 22nd Congressional District according to an article from The Daily Courier dated October 21, 1968. The article says he served one year in Vietnam from August 18, 1966 to July 1, 1967 yet he received his Bronze Star over one year later.



TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: irey; medals; murtha; murthawatch; vietnam
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To: chesty_puller

LOL! I had to check out your page, and like the person you chose for a handle...it ws absolutely direct and to the point...no questions need be asked.

Thanks for your service!


61 posted on 08/16/2006 9:14:49 PM PDT by rlmorel (Islamofacism: It is all fun and games until someone puts an eye out. Or chops off a head.)
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To: SBD1

ping


62 posted on 08/16/2006 11:40:25 PM PDT by SR 50 (Larry)
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To: middie

his service record...


63 posted on 08/17/2006 1:56:37 AM PDT by butternut_squash_bisque (The recipe's at my FR HomePage. Try it!)
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To: silverleaf
Presumably he was out in the field collecting intelligence under fire, not just sitting at a desk reading it.

One must do more than be under fire to receive an award for valor.

Tons of officers receive the Bronze Star for "meritorious service" but adding the "V device" is another matter entirely. The bronze "V" identifies the award as resulting from an act of combat heroism or valor", thus distinguishing it from meritorious achievement awards.

Simple matter of reading the accompanying award unless Murtha pulls a Kerry and doesn't re;ease his records.
64 posted on 08/17/2006 2:55:17 AM PDT by Beckwith (The dhimmicrats and liberal media have chosen sides and they've sided with the Jihadists.)
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To: old school
That's the way it is supposed to work, he gets a nice office and field desk chained to his ankle to prevent him from going (Col.) Goettge in the boonies. And if he does well enough at his desk with out any major breach of military etiquette he goes home with a bronze star as a consolation prize for being there.

Or at least that's the way it worked, but Murtha played with the system. First with the help of the republican congressman he would eventually replace, he requested two purple hearts for injuries that vary from account to account by Murtha, then using the logic of he was wounded in action twice, he got awarded a combat "V" added to the Bronze Star he got for just being there and keeping his nose clean while chained to a desk.

Meanwhile his loyal media flacks have concocted enough lies about his service that now thirty years later even Murtha can't remember them all. And like President Nixon ordering John Kerry sent into Cambodia (as told by Kerry in a speech on the Senate floor)The lies become almost laughable in their brazenness(Nixon wasn't even President when Kerry said he was sent into Cambodia) and yet as with most lies if told often enough, they become fact rather then fiction.

65 posted on 08/17/2006 2:57:50 AM PDT by usmcobra (Hey Stand, who's standing in Lee Circle?)
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To: SBD1
It seems unusual to me that a Bronze Star V award would be presented one year after service.

Nothing unusual about a one year delay. After my return to CONUS we had several combat awards presented to people for their time in Viet Nam. My Purple Heart was awarded for wounds received at Hue 23 February 1968. The orders are dated 28 May 1968 – after I left Viet Nam for Fort Eustis. It was presented to me during the summer of 1969 when I was stationed in Okinawa. Sometimes it took awhile for the paperwork to make the rounds.
66 posted on 08/17/2006 3:09:20 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: Baynative
I think it's wierd that he has a degree in economics and thinks we can tax ourselves into prosperity.

Guess he’s not a John Kennedy style Democrat – but there aren’t many around anymore.
67 posted on 08/17/2006 3:13:15 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: RaceBannon
I liked the part how he avoided the mines and THAT proved his valor...

I avoided mines once – because I had not yet learned what white engineer tape around a rice paddy denoted. Being a SP4 and not an officer, I didn’t get a medal – I got my butt chewed.
68 posted on 08/17/2006 3:16:51 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: silverleaf

A Major in an intelligence billet sounds like a brigrade S-2 to me. I don't know anything about Murtha's actual service, but generally the most valorous thing an S-2 does is stand the S-1 to some drinks at the O-club. Since the paperwork for awards is initiated in the S-1 shop, conveniently located next door to the S-2, one might suspect a whiff or cronyism.

That said, staff officers may spend a lot time writing each other up for awards, but a Bronze Star with a V-device does seem like a stretch for a paper pusher. I'd love to hear from someone who was there. (Problem may be there was a lot of log rolling in that unit, everybody writing everyone else for awards so they could get promoted to an even better billet.)

One retired Army Major General told me that he told a retired Army Colonel to his face that the staff officers in his Divison were not "defending America" in VietNam but writing up paperwork for medals for one another.


69 posted on 08/17/2006 3:45:13 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (NYT Headline: 'Protocols of the Learned Elders of CBS: Fake But Accurate, Experts Say.')
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To: R. Scott

See what happens when you enlist and not finish college first!?


70 posted on 08/17/2006 4:24:23 AM PDT by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty: The Pendleton 8)
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To: RedRover

Your assumption is correct. I had not heard that he said that. That is disgusting if true and you are correct. Are you sure he wasn't referring to the 8 who are being charged with murder?


71 posted on 08/17/2006 4:33:55 AM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: airborne

Actually, to be technical, we can all say anything we want.


72 posted on 08/17/2006 4:34:41 AM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: Don Carlos

The men you mentioned obviously have very impressive records. That doesn't detract from those with "less" impressive records. I haven't heard what he said, other than his opinion on the current Marines charged with murder. I haven't kept up with it much, so you all may be right...


73 posted on 08/17/2006 4:36:37 AM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace

Impressive? Please look up Navy/Marine Corps use of combat V. Thanks.


74 posted on 08/17/2006 4:41:11 AM PDT by Lumper20
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To: DainBramage

After reading the 4th paragraph of the article, "REMF" was my reaction too. But I wasn't with him and don't know the details so I won't judge. I do find it strange there is no mention of actual combat or other contact with the enemy. A "V" Device shouldn't be a "been there" kind of an award.


75 posted on 08/17/2006 4:41:16 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace

REMF. PERIOD.


76 posted on 08/17/2006 4:43:49 AM PDT by Lumper20
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To: fix
As I've said before, I and other Veterans are watching closely and so far what I see is a Republican Party that will turn on us in a heartbeat and chew us to pieces if it suits their agenda. Do us all a favor and drop it already.

This deserves a bump. Integrity is unfortunately something one rarely sees in today's political landscape, no matter which direction you are looking.

77 posted on 08/17/2006 4:45:03 AM PDT by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (War is Peace__Freedom is Slavery__Ignorance is Strength)
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace

Indeed he was referring to the 8 who were charged with murder.


78 posted on 08/17/2006 4:46:32 AM PDT by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (War is Peace__Freedom is Slavery__Ignorance is Strength)
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To: SBD1

OH, He disregarded enemy mines and sniper's? WOW. That decribes every man and woman in RVN, who even went to the PX or BX. Add those who went to town or ever left their remington typewriter. What an insult to real Marines.


79 posted on 08/17/2006 4:51:33 AM PDT by Lumper20
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace; freema

He was refering to the so called Haditha Marines.

And to be fair I don't believe he has ever said a word about the Pendleton Eight EVER!

(^look ma I can spel eight^)


80 posted on 08/17/2006 4:52:12 AM PDT by usmcobra (Hey Stand, who's standing in Lee Circle?)
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