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To: norton
"Either way, I do NOT see a friendly government emerging and I already believe the masses to be indoctrinated into loathing for the USA."

I could point you to some editorials in Spanish in which they quote Lopez Obrador for ridiculing PAN and its supporters "for liking the gringos and their way of life," something that he does repeatedly in speeches.

I do not expect Calderon to give us everything we want, so in the sense that we will ask for stricter measures to curtail illegal immigration, I see difficulties ahead. But, as I have said repeatedly, if Calderon gets his any significant amount of his reform policies enacted, he will need us, and that need will define a complex of "mutual interests" between our two countries. It will be a process of "give and take," that does not exist now because Fox could never get his reform program, which admittedly has not been as ambitious as the one Calderon wants to pursue, enacted into law. Fox never "needed" the U.S., so it was never in his interest to "deal" with us at the bargaining table. I'm hoping Calderon approaches that table under a different set of circumstances. And, by the way, there are NO circumstances under which AMLO would "need" us, so it's clearly in our interest to support Calderon. We have ourselves to look out for most of all.
14 posted on 08/16/2006 6:59:21 PM PDT by StJacques (Liberty is always unfinished business)
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To: StJacques

>>>And, by the way, there are NO circumstances under which AMLO would "need" us, <<<

He did publish in the New York Times pleading for Leftists' support worldwide. But clearly if he had a choice between an open country where criticism from abroad could undermine his authoritarian ways, and a continuingly impoverished one where he's boss, the latter would more likely appeal to his syphillis-infected / cysticercos-plagued brain.

In other news, Evo Morales now has postage stamps of himself being distributed in Bolivia. And even on his deathbed, Fidel's still a billionaire while the Cuban masses rot in poverty and the bliss of ignorance.


16 posted on 08/16/2006 8:54:48 PM PDT by Shuttle Shucker
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To: StJacques
Ummm...

Think Calderon might change the lesson plans in mexican schools to drop the "gringos stole our land", and "gringos exploit our labor", and "gringos killed off our ancestors" part?

Think maybe they'd admit that the Aztecs never got to Santa Fe but the Spanish did, happily enslaving the locals; then handed them management so they (mexico) could pi$$ it away?

(Doubt it)

18 posted on 08/16/2006 11:32:33 PM PDT by norton
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To: StJacques
But, as I have said repeatedly, if Calderon gets his any significant amount of his reform policies enacted, he will need us, and that need will define a complex of "mutual interests" between our two countries.

Do you know what his reform agenda is? And what chance he has of getting it through Parliament, which as I understand it balked at what Mr. Fox wanted to do?

25 posted on 08/17/2006 10:05:44 AM PDT by untenured
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