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Teen with cancer can forgo chemotherapy
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| 08/16/06
Posted on 08/16/2006 8:08:37 AM PDT by presidio9
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To: evad
You aren't the kid and the state has no role in it.
It is to be a personal decision. Would I choose Chemo if the success rate was 80%+, sure.
This is his second time. Given my fictitious numbers, I guess he was in the 20% the first time? If the first drug didn't work, and I presume they used the best coctail against it-- the second best coctail might do less. It could do more...
That's why it's a hard decision. The state can bugger off.
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posted on
08/16/2006 8:58:35 AM PDT
by
steveyp
To: GovernmentShrinker
Too bad this sort of process and outcome is so rare when government authorities intervene in family matters. The government had no business intervening in this situation to begin with.
Please read my comments regarding social workers in Accomack County at post #15.
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posted on
08/16/2006 9:00:21 AM PDT
by
Gabz
(Taxaholism, the disease you elect to have (TY xcamel))
To: Zon
Wow, wax philosophical, wouldja? That was pure honey-drippin' to read, I tell ya. I bet you and I would have the same interpretations of the metaphor and allegory in The Matrix...
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posted on
08/16/2006 9:00:31 AM PDT
by
Froufrou
To: Gabz; Froufrou
Not to go off on a tangent, but this issue kind of points out something that I think a lot of people don't consider. There is a perception among many, subconscious most of the time, that equates the law with morality. That was more true in times past than it is now. Just because the law says something illegal, doesn't mean it's immoral and just because the law says something is legal doesn't make it moral by any stretch of the imagination.
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posted on
08/16/2006 9:07:22 AM PDT
by
JamesP81
("Never let your schooling interfere with your education" --Mark Twain)
To: JamesP81; Zon
I like what Zon has said more or less in this vein. I would argue that laws were created to rein in on those who lack some of the finer aspects of morality. Theivery comes to mind.
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posted on
08/16/2006 9:14:07 AM PDT
by
Froufrou
To: Zon
Happens quite often with the WOD and Ritalin.
Yeah, they railroaded me into the ritalin crap when I was in third grade. Believe me when I say that that stuff will leave you permanently different, and not for the better.
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posted on
08/16/2006 9:15:22 AM PDT
by
JamesP81
("Never let your schooling interfere with your education" --Mark Twain)
To: JamesP81; Zon
People don't realize that Ritalin prescribed = enhanced funding for reclassing the child as special ed. It's a racket.
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posted on
08/16/2006 9:19:17 AM PDT
by
Froufrou
To: Froufrou
People don't realize that Ritalin prescribed = enhanced funding for reclassing the child as special ed. It's a racket.
Figures. Personally, I think that stuff should be outlawed. Mind altering drug just doesn't cover it. That stuff turns you into someone else than you were.
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posted on
08/16/2006 9:21:29 AM PDT
by
JamesP81
("Never let your schooling interfere with your education" --Mark Twain)
To: JamesP81
They're doing it to my step-grandson. I wish they would listen to me. There were posts here last week about it, that [female] teachers can't handle normal little boys.
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posted on
08/16/2006 9:23:22 AM PDT
by
Froufrou
To: JamesP81
Sorry that you got trapped in their parasitical agenda. Most people don't have a clue as to the massive amount of destruction caused by politicians and bureaucrats "just doing their job". One example, the FDA is biased toward prohibiting a drug that kills one out of 100,000 people despite it saving the lives of ten people out of 100,000. How about DDT and the EPA agenda? How many needless deaths did the banning of DDT cause? Millions.
... the consumer. These agencies restrict freedom, stifle beneficial innovation, and become agents for the industries or groups they are intended to regulate. ...
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posted on
08/16/2006 9:27:03 AM PDT
by
Zon
(Honesty outlives the lie, spin and deception -- It always has -- It always will.)
To: Froufrou
They're doing it to my step-grandson. I wish they would listen to me. There were posts here last week about it, that [female] teachers can't handle normal little boys.
What they don't realize is that boys and girls have to be taught in different ways. It's a compelling argument for all male and all female classrooms. This is apparently something that our 'uneducated' grandparents and great-grandparents understood with perfect clarity.
I wish you luck with your step-grandson. I wouldn't wish what they are doing to him on my enemies, much less strangers or friends.
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posted on
08/16/2006 9:27:31 AM PDT
by
JamesP81
("Never let your schooling interfere with your education" --Mark Twain)
To: nmh
The standing joke is quick operate before the patient gets better. YOUR health is the last thing they are concerned about. They've gone to the opposite extreme from what the father of medicine stated.
_________
Hey, I've got an idea, let's paint all medical professionals with the same, incredibly, negative brush.
Damn, you beat me to it!
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posted on
08/16/2006 9:28:39 AM PDT
by
dmz
To: JamesP81
I can't argue with you there. My hubs was raised in parochial school, all male. He therefore learned sports and history and all things male, leaving him plenty of time to get gaga over chickie-booms at a later and more appropriate time. No need to play doctor before old enough to know the risks!
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posted on
08/16/2006 9:30:44 AM PDT
by
Froufrou
To: Froufrou
If school actually exercised students' cognitive process rather than stifle it with PC claptrap, groupthink and external authority rule there wouldn't be but a tiny fraction of attention distractions. The conscious cognitive process has the individual as the highest authority. In short, it is free will, choice. With that comes risk and reward.
Parasitical elites in academia, politics and mainstream media have manipulated persons to acknowledge external authority as higher than their own individual authority. They have severely skewed the risk/reward nature of the conscious individual to serve the parasitical elites. Doing that at the cost of individual life, liberty, happiness and prosperity of the individual.
The irony is, in the end, the parasitical elites are the biggest losers. They may have unearned prestige/glory and fortune, but they have no integrity. Whereas the value creator/producer has earned his and her power and rewards via their integrity.
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posted on
08/16/2006 9:44:35 AM PDT
by
Zon
(Honesty outlives the lie, spin and deception -- It always has -- It always will.)
To: nmh
If you really want to be outraged, work in a nursing home :(
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posted on
08/16/2006 9:44:41 AM PDT
by
cyborg
(No I don't miss the single life at all.)
To: A. Pole
The "alternative treatment" might just work. Sure...it might. Everyone certainly hopes it does.
There are many examples of how the "alternative treatment" could be superior.
If you have any stats on the success of the Hoxley treatments or of this "alternative treatment" oncologist (or his methods), I'd appreciate the link or source.
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posted on
08/16/2006 9:51:21 AM PDT
by
evad
To: Zon
I was a chubby kid, but we had exercise, together with boys in grade school. Kickball, softball, Red Rover. It was a great equalizer. I was blessed with good timing and was thus a very good kickball player, giving me some popularity despite my chubbyness.
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posted on
08/16/2006 9:55:01 AM PDT
by
Froufrou
To: steveyp
That's why it's a hard decision. The state can bugger off.We're not in disagreement on that point.
My point (opinion) has only been that the choice he and his parents have made bucks the odds and most likely will result in the kid's early demise.
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posted on
08/16/2006 10:00:20 AM PDT
by
evad
To: evad
Even so, can it be their reasoning they would prefer a shorter time with better quality vs longer time with nausea and feeling as though he wished it would end already?
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posted on
08/16/2006 10:02:17 AM PDT
by
Froufrou
To: Froufrou
Even so, can it be their reasoning they would prefer a shorter time with better quality vs longer time with nausea and feeling as though he wished it would end already?I think it's pretty obvious that IS their reasoning since that's what they are doing.
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posted on
08/16/2006 10:15:56 AM PDT
by
evad
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