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To: RippyO
But ID as it stands, does not rule out evolution. It's basic premise is that certain aspects of the universe are best explained as having an intelligent cause. While it is true that creation is a very specific subset of ID, it names the creator and gives Him specific character qualities based on knowledge imparted from the creator Himself; the reverse is not necessarily true. One can believe that the universe was intelligently designed without it having be *God*, but rather a highly evolved extraterrestrial. So in that case, an atheist could technically be an IDer just not one who believes the creating agent is God, or a god but rather another inhabitant in an alternate dimension.

I also don't see any difference between ID and evolutionists who claim to believe in God. An evolutionist who believes that God created the universe, set it in motion, and established evolution as the method for life arising on earth is basically an IDer.

269 posted on 08/17/2006 7:50:20 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

Do you believe that the people who want to see ID in schools would allow students to believe Gleep Glarp from the planet Deltazoid is the creator of all things on Earth? One look at the bios of Dembski and Johnson would dispute that immediately.

Evolution, as I understand is concerned with the process of nature, not the creation. ID says that the creation is by design and that the process is, well, negligible. You can believe in a supreme being that grants humanity certain rights while allowing that we arise via non-sentient means.


273 posted on 08/17/2006 8:28:17 PM PDT by RippyO
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