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To: MarDav

It's based on faith but faith doesn't belong in the classroom, science does. Faith is not provable neither yours nor mine. Creation has no evidence, none. Men did not appear when God blew spittle at a dirt pile anymore than women grew out of a rib.

If I have denigrated people of faith here they deserved the slap in the face for forcing their faith onto those who would rather teach reality. If they are insulted that man isn't made from a pile of mud and that the Earth is older than 6000 years then they need to wake up and join reality and quit acting like the mullahs in Iran and forcing their atavistic nonsense on the rest of us.


185 posted on 08/16/2006 4:06:11 PM PDT by Sentis
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To: Sentis

You sort of ducked my question. You say you believe in some sort of god. Then you say that this is based on faith. Faith in what? What is it that leads you to place your faith in whatever God you believe in? It sounds like you are merely hedging your bets and covering the "god angle" just in case...Don't mean to come off as disrespectful or smug (sorry if that's how I'm sounding). It's just that your answers are very curious.


200 posted on 08/16/2006 6:30:11 PM PDT by MarDav
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To: Sentis
Something you should be aware of before you insult Christians for their beliefs is this: Christians vary in their view of creation. A Young Earth belief, and literal interpretation is not the defining doctrine of a Christian. Furthermore, there are many Christians that believe in ID, or creation, that aren't pushing for either to be taught as science in public schools. So much for your comparison to liberals, and communist.

"Men did not appear when God blew spittle at a dirt pile"

The Creation account says nothing about God blowing spittle on dirt.

"If I have denigrated people of faith here they deserved the slap in the face for forcing their faith onto those who would rather teach reality. If they are insulted that man isn't made from a pile of mud and that the Earth is older than 6000 years then they need to wake up and join reality and quit acting like the mullahs in Iran and forcing their atavistic nonsense on the rest of us."


Yes, you denigrated me by insulting Christians as a bunch of 7th century liberal commies. I homeschool. I'm not a Young Earth Creationist. I think evolution has a lot of credibility, but I am skeptical as to it's scope because there is still much to learn. However, it may also be completely right. I am also skeptical as to whether natural selection+random mutation+time are the only forces behind evolution. I believe that God created the universe. He is no less the Creator if he did so through an evolutionary process. I do not support ID being taught as science unless it meets the required standards. I do think that evolution impacts religion and it would be responsible to teach the varying views in the form of philosophy, but I don't see how this could be done in the public schools. I also happen to believe that it would be wrong to force my beliefs are others.

So now, if you wish to insult me for being a Christian you at least know a bit more about me from which to base your remarks on.
244 posted on 08/17/2006 12:41:57 PM PDT by Conservative Texan Mom (Some people say I'm stubborn, when it's usually just that I'm right.)
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