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To: demonrum
Of course I do--that's what democracy means, ya silly.

No. That is what is silly about Democracy without minority protection. For example, after the French Revolution occurred, the Rule of the Mob led to the 'Reign of Terror'. Mobs can be ugly things at times. Very emotional. They turn on a whim. Just watch the 'rioteers' during the next French riots. Surely you have heard the joke that Democracy is 3 wolves and a sheep voting to decide what is for dinner. You need checks and balances to prevent the wolves from voting to eat the sheep. Our fore fathers used their religious based morals. Over time, America came to respect minority rights more then just about any other country. Hey, perhaps that helps to explain our immigration problems.

Perhaps a lack of respect for minority rights is what will make it almost impossible to bring long term democracy to the Middle East. Their problem may actually be their particular 'religion' (Islam). It is a closed religion that is not very Democratic. People who are not Islamic are called Infidels and they end up losing rights. Just try opening a Christian Church in Saudi Arabia for example.

So obviously not every religion is compatible with Western style democracy. For example, we would have a problem if the Aztecs down in Mexico starting sacrificing hundreds of people to their Ancient Gods once again. In the end the key to a successful long term democracy appears to be the moral conduct of the people participating within the Democracy. Otherwise, totalitarians will vote for totalitarians (Putin) and terrorists will vote for terrorists (Hamas).

107 posted on 08/17/2006 6:30:44 AM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: justa-hairyape

You make some excellent points. We(speaking as an American here) are consider by many, if not most, of the world as a beacon of Democracy (& I firmly believe that we have the best game going), but all the same we've been tinkering with it for 200 plus years & are still working the bugs out. (Although it could be said that the only system without any "bugs" is true totalitarianism.)

Democracy can't be imposed. We have what we have because it grew organically from within & we're still, to use Sec. Rice's phrase, having "birth pangs" to this day. Minority protection IS one of those things that make us great, even if that "minority" is more than half the population (women, who weren't granted the right to vote until after more than a hundred years of "tinkering".)

What's going to happen in the Middle East? I don't know.

But it's going to take a long time & the dead will continue to pile up while we & they & the world figures it out.


109 posted on 08/17/2006 3:19:49 PM PDT by demonrum (Loyalty to country--always. Loyalty to government--when it deserves it.--M. Twain)
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