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Greenland's Thawing ice alarms scientists: "losing the equivalent of Lake Houston every 6 hours"
Houston Chronicle ^ | Aug. 14, 2006 | ERIC BERGER

Posted on 08/15/2006 2:02:32 PM PDT by rface

Greenland's massive ice sheet is melting rapidly, losing the equivalent of Lake Houston every six hours.

That's the conclusion of a study by University of Texas at Austin scientists that appears to confirm earlier, controversial research that suggests the melting of Greenland's ice has nearly tripled since the late 1990s. Greenland's ice sheet contains about 10 percent of the world's fresh water.

The findings concern climate scientists, who say that since the Industrial Revolution, and especially since the mid-1900s, carbon dioxide levels have risen by more than 40 percent. They attribute much of the increase to fossil fuel burning and say that, in the absence of increased carbon emissions, no natural factor can explain warming global temperatures.

The warming effect, scientists fear, is accelerating and could lead to rising sea levels.

"This is a good indication of global warming, that it's there," said the study's lead author, Jianli Chen, a researcher at UT's Center for Space Research. "At least, it's happening in the Arctic."

Using two satellites that measured the change in the mass of Greenland's ice sheet, the researchers, publishing last week in the journal Science, found that Greenland was losing 57 cubic miles of ice a year.

At that rate, Greenland is raising sea levels by less than a half-inch per decade. But still more rapid ice loss could accelerate that rate. If all of Greenland's ice were to melt, seas would rise by 21 feet.

"Existing ice sheet models estimate that most of the ice sheet will be removed within 1,000 years," said Eric Rignot of NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif., lead author of the Greenland ice study earlier this year that the new work seems to confirm.

"This is a very conservative estimate, and the time scale is at least three times too large. Whether it will happen in the next century, we do not know. But, realistically, every year we look at Greenland, we realize that things are changing faster than we thought."

One of the first scientists to study Greenland's thinning ice sheet, NASA glaciologist William Krabill, said the two new studies make a strong case that the melting of Greenland has accelerated.

"There is no question that the sign is correct, Greenland is thinning and losing mass," Krabill said.

He added, however, that there are limitations on the new research. The satellites only began collecting data in 2002, making it difficult to discern whether the recent ice loss is part of a long-term trend.

Chen said he's expecting the two satellites used in the study to continue collecting data through at least 2010.

Scientists say coastal residents shouldn't be immediately concerned about rising seas due to glacial melting in Greenland and Antarctica, where there is increasing evidence that a warming climate also is causing ice loss.

"Houston has produced much larger apparent sea level changes locally through groundwater pumping, and coastal construction contributes to receding coastlines," said Texas State Climatologist John Nielsen-Gammon, an atmospheric sciences professor at Texas A&M University.

"We saw in New Orleans the effect of marsh drainage and upstream damming of sediment on the height of land relative to sea level. I expect that, for the next several decades, what Texans do directly to our coast will have a much bigger effect than what global warming will do to our coast."


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: alwaysroundup; climatechange
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To: rface
Greenland's Thawing ice alarms scientists: "losing the equivalent of Lake Houston every 6 hours"

Even in the Winter?

The article is pure Eco-Porn.

21 posted on 08/15/2006 2:17:19 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (I'll have the duck with mango salsa.)
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To: rface

More"Chicken Little"from The LEFT!!!I will bet that this SAME phenomenon has happened before(probably long before WE were here)!!!!!!!!!


22 posted on 08/15/2006 2:17:31 PM PDT by bandleader
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To: Names Ash Housewares

That's really funny. I took the liberty of creating a scaled-down version that should be easier to post in the future:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v387/elkgrovedan/pchart1.jpg


23 posted on 08/15/2006 2:17:47 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (California bashers will be called out)
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To: Names Ash Housewares
Your scientific evidence is overwhelmingly convincing.
Count me in.

24 posted on 08/15/2006 2:18:25 PM PDT by Outland (Sustainable Horse Puckey)
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To: rface

Screwy? Same thing as losing 100 acres of rainforest every day. They never really think anyone will actually DO the math. The people they're addressing probably can't anyway.


25 posted on 08/15/2006 2:19:07 PM PDT by Hildy (To save us both time, assume I know everything...)
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To: BikerJoe

What a boon for archaeologists ... those Viking settlements are finally going to be exposed due to receding ice. Of course, the global warmists would have us believe that sea levels are going to rise an alarming amount, but if these ancient settlements weren't under water then, they aren't going to be under water now.


26 posted on 08/15/2006 2:19:10 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: BikerJoe
I'll worry about global warming when the Greenland ice has retreated to where it was 1000 years ago, when GREENLAND got its name.

It's still Bush's fault. I'm surprised that a DUmmie hasn't produced a geneology chart that shows that Dubya's descended from Leif Erickson.

27 posted on 08/15/2006 2:21:02 PM PDT by Night Hides Not (Closing in on 3000 posts, of which maybe 50 were worthwhile!)
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To: rface

I come up with only 6.1 Billion cu-ft but that amount every 6 hours is stil alot of water / ice melting.


28 posted on 08/15/2006 2:21:30 PM PDT by LM_Guy
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To: rface
Two things that struck me here...

At that rate, Greenland is raising sea levels by less than a half-inch per decade. But still more rapid ice loss could accelerate that rate. If all of Greenland's ice were to melt, seas would rise by 21 feet.

Ok, 1/2" per decade (10 years) - 21 feet total...

So 1/2" which equals .04166665 feet.

Then you times that by roughly 504 to get 21 feet.

So I figure it will take about 5040 years to get to 21 feet, at its current pace. Is that right?

He added, however, that there are limitations on the new research. The satellites only began collecting data in 2002, making it difficult to discern whether the recent ice loss is part of a long-term trend.

So, they really don't know since they've only been studying it for 4 years exactly what we're facing...

More global warming crapola, imo.
29 posted on 08/15/2006 2:22:31 PM PDT by Lucky9teen (Ask not what the government can do for you. Ask why it doesn't.)
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To: rface

"Greenland's massive ice sheet is melting rapidly, losing the equivalent of Lake Houston every six hours."

I'm not a scientist or a geographer. Can anyone reduce this comparison into those little paper cups at the water cooler at work? Thanks.


30 posted on 08/15/2006 2:23:15 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (Anything a politician gives you he has first stolen from you)
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To: kabar

Kabar-

You don't understand.

Glaciers retreating in Europe? Global warming.

Glaciers advancing in Greenland? Global warming.

;-)


31 posted on 08/15/2006 2:23:46 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: rface

Good for you for doing the math! Amazing how easily these "scientists" can be proven to be charlatans.


32 posted on 08/15/2006 2:23:55 PM PDT by American Quilter (You can't negotiate with people who are dedicated to your destruction.)
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To: delphirogatio
well, I probably have a math disability too, so my calculations might be wrong.....but in case they are right....

At New Orleans, the average flow rate of the Mississippi is 600,000 cubic feet per second......

so ..... that means that in some 8333 seconds or 140 minutes or converted to 2 hours and 20 minutes of the Mississippi flowing equals how much water Greenland is losing every 6 hours....

If Greenland had a river 1/3 the output of the Mississippi river - then that's how much water they are losing from their ice.......

33 posted on 08/15/2006 2:24:55 PM PDT by rface ("...the most schizoid freeper I've ever seen" - New Bloomfield, Missouri)
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To: ElkGroveDan

Awesome. Thanks! Spread the word.
Piracy for a cooler earth!

arrrrrrgh!


34 posted on 08/15/2006 2:25:31 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: texas_mrs

you probably have a worse water problem than we have in Missouri - but it's dry here too.


35 posted on 08/15/2006 2:26:13 PM PDT by rface ("...the most schizoid freeper I've ever seen" - New Bloomfield, Missouri)
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To: rface
It's all relative, meant to scare people who 1) don't realize how big the Earth is, and 2) can't do math.

The usual scenario, you get some scaremonger saying "We're losing 1000 metric tons of atmosphere a day! We'are all gonna die!" But then you remember that the Earth's atmosphere weighs about 5.1x1018 kg, break out your calculator, and realize that our Sun will have died about 10 billion years before we could have finished losing atmosphere.

36 posted on 08/15/2006 2:27:17 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Shermy

Global warming is responsible for everything, even a new ice age.


37 posted on 08/15/2006 2:27:22 PM PDT by kabar
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To: LM_Guy

maybe I'll check my math ....


38 posted on 08/15/2006 2:27:27 PM PDT by rface ("...the most schizoid freeper I've ever seen" - New Bloomfield, Missouri)
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To: rface
that suggests the melting of Greenland's ice has nearly tripled since the late 1990s.

In the late 90s, the ice mass was growing.

39 posted on 08/15/2006 2:30:07 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: kabar
Global warming is responsible for everything, even a new ice age.

I thought Bush or Rove was? (sarc)
40 posted on 08/15/2006 2:30:36 PM PDT by Lucky9teen (Ask not what the government can do for you. Ask why it doesn't.)
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