[RobRoy]

>>But as our crisis deepens, it's worth considering 1914ism, and with it the possibility that all of us, whatever year we think it is, are poised on the edge of an abyss that nobody saw coming.<<

Nobody saw it coming?! Baloney. A transcript of Bush's speech after 911 lets us know Bush saw it coming. That is why we are in Iraq. Imagine the same Rina/syria/lebanon mess with a strong Saddam in Iraq.

Also, if you read the koran or went here you saw it coming: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/696408/posts

I'm a 1938ist, but in the context of my tagline. Except I now think it is 1939. It's gonna get worse before it gets better. A lot worse. It is literally unconscionable to most people in the west just how bad it can be - and probably will be.

[schu]

Agree, many saw the disaster of 1914 with the interlocking treaties as a clear formula for disaster, which it was.

There is another date:

"For '19ists, Mr. Bush is Woodrow Wilson, a feckless idealist bent on sacrificing U.S. interests and global stability on the altar of messianic liberalism."

The 1919ists believe Bush is the equivalent of Wilson, seriously misguided and and idealist. In other words democracy will never succeed in the Middle East, we are just wasting our time, treasure and lives.

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