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Methodist Activist Reacts to Seminary Hosting Dem(ocratic Party) Conference
Agape Press ^ | 14 Aug | Jim Brown

Posted on 08/14/2006 9:28:34 PM PDT by xzins

Methodist Activist Reacts to Seminary Hosting Dems' Conference

By Jim Brown August 14, 2006

(AgapePress) - A conservative United Methodist activist finds it ironic that a United Methodist seminary in Colorado recently hosted a Democratic party conference on how to attract religious voters.

The political summit at Iliff Theological Seminary in Denver drew Democratic Party leaders, academics, pollsters, and members of the clergy. According to Associated Press, some of the participants said Democrats do not need to change their position on abortion or same-sex "marriage," but need only to emphasize the morality of helping the poor or protecting the environment. A table at the conference was stacked with new books from the religious left, and bumper stickers that read "Jesus rode a donkey."

Mark Tooley is director of the United Methodist Action Committee at the Institute on Religion and Democracy. He finds it ironic that the same liberals have been lamenting the supposed "marriage" between Evangelicals and the Republican Party.

"If nothing else, this illustrates what the religious left is all about and has been about for many decades previous to the founding of the 'Religious Right,'" observes Tooley. "And I guess there is resentment over the fact that conservative religious activists, although their movement is newer, have been far more influential and more successful than the old religious left."

According to Tooley, the sponsors of the conference may have outdone themselves this time. "Here, in this case, we have the Democratic Party of Colorado actually holding an event on the campus of Methodist Iliffe Seminary there in Denver, brainstorming on how to attract religious people into the Democratic Party," he points out.

"I really would be hard pressed to think of any examples where the Republican Party has convened a similar event at a conservative seminary."

Tooley says Iliff is probably the second-most liberal of the 13 United Methodist seminaries in the United States.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: democrat; election; iliff; irs; liberal; methodist; religiousleft; religiousvote; seminary; speech; umc
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1 posted on 08/14/2006 9:28:35 PM PDT by xzins
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To: xzins

If it looks like a double standard, talks like a double stand, walks like a double standard, and quacks like a double standard, then....

(With apologies to GHW Bush)


2 posted on 08/14/2006 9:30:02 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Supporting the troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: xzins

The separation of church and state...hmmmm.


3 posted on 08/14/2006 9:32:40 PM PDT by EagleUSA (T)
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To: xzins

"I really would be hard pressed to think of any examples where the Republican Party has convened a similar event at a conservative seminary."

Separaton of church and state for thee, but not for me. Amazing.


4 posted on 08/14/2006 9:33:07 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: xzins

Should the IRS be notified ?


5 posted on 08/14/2006 9:33:52 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Cheney X -- Destroying the Liberal Democrat Traitors By Any Means Necessary -- Ya Dig ? Sho 'Nuff.)
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To: EagleUSA

That only for conservative churches and or governments.


6 posted on 08/14/2006 9:34:34 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

I'd prefer we call the hypocrite police, but if the media were any closer to the Democratic Party they'd come out the other side.


7 posted on 08/14/2006 9:36:21 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Supporting the troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: RegulatorCountry; EagleUSA

Of some comfort is the fact that these same liberals have led our denomination in the loss of some 7 million members since 1968....not counting the gain that should have been realized by simple birth rate addition.

In short, they're losers, and if the Dems are going to them for advice, then they've gone to exactly the folks we'd "suggest" they should go to. :>)


8 posted on 08/14/2006 9:40:27 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Supporting the troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: xzins
"Jesus rode a donkey."

This as a political slogan really gets me all excited about the democrat party.

9 posted on 08/14/2006 9:42:44 PM PDT by abigailsmybaby
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To: xzins
Pathetic or amusing? To laugh or to barf? So many questions.
10 posted on 08/14/2006 9:44:52 PM PDT by NurdlyPeon (Wearing My 'Jammies Proudly)
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To: xzins

Hypocrites!


11 posted on 08/14/2006 9:45:10 PM PDT by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES.)
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To: xzins
A conservative United Methodist activist finds it ironic that a United Methodist seminary in Colorado recently hosted a Democratic party conference on how to attract religious voters.

He found it ironic? Where has he been?
12 posted on 08/14/2006 9:51:28 PM PDT by Zechariah_8_13 (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.)
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[He finds it ironic that the same liberals have been lamenting the supposed "marriage" between Evangelicals and the Republican Party.]



He finds it "ironic" that many liberal churches actively support and fund raise for Democratic causes and campaigns as tax exempt religious organizations, but I find it to be hypocritical, unethical, immoral and ILLEGAL.
13 posted on 08/14/2006 9:58:25 PM PDT by spinestein (Follow The Brazen Rule)
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To: Zechariah_8_13
Mark Tooley is quite knowledgeable.

The irony is found in the hypocrisy.
14 posted on 08/14/2006 9:59:12 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Supporting the troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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Unfortunately, these creeps aren't the ONLY losers.

There's a saying in politics that you can't beat somebody with nobody.

Well, that goes for religion too.

Because the mainstream Christian faiths, particularly the Protestant ones, have been loosing members like a duck sheds water n the rain, more Christians are set adrift in the world without strong religious teachings.

That lack of connectivity to Christianity among some of these people, and ESPECIALLY their offspring, produces a well of potential Islamic converts.

And I believe the same thing has happened in Europe.

Christianity died out in many "Christian" countries like the Scandinavian ones, long before the Islamic invasion.

A secular religion is no substitute for a religious experience - which unfortunately, Islam is all to eager to provide - in a warped and distorted version.
15 posted on 08/14/2006 10:13:58 PM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: xzins
Of some comfort is the fact that these same liberals have led our denomination in the loss of some 7 million members since 1968.

I'm one of those 7 million.

It's probably just as well, I don't think the .357 magnum I carry in church would be welcome in most Methodist Churches.

16 posted on 08/14/2006 11:04:55 PM PDT by c-b 1 (Reporting from behind enemy lines, in occupied AZTLAN.)
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To: xzins
Another theological cemetery exposed.
17 posted on 08/14/2006 11:31:02 PM PDT by HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath (Jesus always reads His knee-mail. (Hall of Fame Hit-N-Run poster))
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To: xzins
LOL. This is a case of losers consulting losers. The Democrat party has people leaving it in droves, as does the United Methodist Church...this conservative has walked out on both. And I'm not alone.
18 posted on 08/15/2006 1:47:37 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of "dependence on government"!)
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To: xzins

What would today's Methodists know about religion?


19 posted on 08/15/2006 2:33:48 AM PDT by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: Corin Stormhands; AppyPappy; The Grammarian; Revelation 911; P-Marlowe; blue-duncan; Buggman

Ping to basic article.


20 posted on 08/15/2006 6:02:41 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Supporting the troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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