Muslims face extra checks in new travel crackdown

London Times ^ | 8/15/2006 | Ben Webster

[stocksthatgoup]

But wont that make them angry? /s

[SkyPilot]

Sir Rod Eddington, former chief executive of British Airways, criticised the random nature of security searches. He said that it was irrational to subject a 75-year-old grandmother to the same checks as a 25-year-old man who had just paid for his ticket with cash.

"You bigots!"

[gakrak]

"The system would be much more sophisticated than simply picking out young men of Asian appearance. But it would cause outrage in the Muslim community because its members would be far more likely to be selected for extra checks."

Considering that all of the terrorists have been Muslim and middle eastern it only makes sense to protect ourselves. Amen.

[mc5cents]

Round up the usual suspects!
- Captain Louis Renault (Claude Rains), "Casablanca".

Capt. Louis had the right idea, maybe the Brits are getting the idea.

[Beckwith]

Not necessarily since there are some Caucasian Muslims. Remeber John Walker Lindh?



Would you let this guy on your airplane?

[nonliberal]

Exactly what I was thinking: ONE country gets it.

[theBuckwheat]

How silly! We could go the other route. Security resources such as the number of trained screeners, the number of people who are qualified to look through hand luggage, the number of people who can interrogate, etc. are finite. Even the amount of space in the airport to conduct the necessary screening is finite. That is the issue right now that has forced the cancellation of so many flights at Heathrow, and has forced so many passengers to wait so many hours in such long lines, lines that now snake outside the terminal.

The entire question is: how do you allocate and direct finite resources to achieve the highest probability of deterring and detecting the person who is so intent on murdering people so they can get a better reward in the afterlife?

Do you do it by allowing your people to spend time frisking people with a low probability such as blue-haired old ladies in wheelchairs? It is just moronic to suggest that is productive. It may be "fair", it may be politically correct, but it is still moronic.

No, you allocate your resources with people who your intelligence sources indicate have associated themselves with the effort to murder people. Such perps proudly march behind banners and throw bottles at police in riots. Such perps carry signs proclaiming how proud they are of the success of previous murderers. They self-identify, and they are proud of it.

This is not to say that attempts won't be mounted to circumvent the profiling. But I have yet to see any retired Norwegian farmers from Minnesota carrying a "bin Laden is my hero" sign.

People who insist the threat lays elsewhere are either blind or dangerous.

[savedbygrace]

Courts have lately been making runlings against 4th Amendment 'rights' due to 'public safety' concerns. Plus, in keeping with the 4th, profiled searches are more 'reasonable' than random searches. In brief, LEOs have a reason to search people with Islamic appearances, therefore it is reasonable to search them. Reasonable.

[muawiyah]

Hmmm ~ guess that's a risk we'll have to take.

[DelphiUser]

>>What I'm trying to say is that as a Catholic and and
>>American, my highest allegiance is to my family and the
>>U.S.A -- I acknowledge only Jesus Christ and his mother
>>ahead of my family and my country. And I daresay you'd
>>be hard-pressed to find any American Catholic (or
>>American Lutheran, Mennonite, Jew, or Mormon) who
>>doesn't feel the same.

And the leader of the church (whichever one) would be right out there denouncing these terrorists in front of you. Islam just does not seem have that kind of class, or decency.

[DelphiUser]

Mormons don't drink beer (Grin) how about we all say Mohammet was a pedofile, I spit on his name.

It would be hard for the jehadis to go to their deaths with that on their lips (no 72 for you pig boy!)

[crazycat]

They should train pigs as sniffer animals....or just ban all muslims from any transport

[Zavien Doombringer]

Timothy McViegh didn't act alone either. Wasn't there Eye witnesses who saw Middle Eastern men with him?

[Zavien Doombringer]

What I'm trying to say is that as a Catholic and and American, my highest allegiance is to my family and the U.S.A -- I acknowledge only Jesus Christ and his mother ahead of my family and my country. And I daresay you'd be hard-pressed to find any American Catholic (or American Lutheran, Mennonite, Jew, or Mormon) who doesn't feel the same.

Not!

As A Bible believing Christian, and a follower of Christ. Not taking away the promise of the Divine appointment of Mary. Mary wasn't God's mother, nor is she to be worshipped. Any Protestant Christian wouldn't put Mary infront of thier family. Jesus yes, Mary is the mother of Jesus, but not a deity.

[winner3000]

("there is a real risk of criminalising minority communities.”)

These communities are criminalizing themselves.

[B-Chan]

1. Mary is the mother of Jesus.

2. Jesus = God.

3. Therefore, Mary is the mother of _________.

Fill in the blank.

[Zavien Doombringer]

Uh, It is God who said, "There are none before me, or after me.." So, therefore, Mary cannot be God's mother...

[B-Chan]

1. Mary is the mother of Jesus.

2. Jesus = God.

3. Therefore, Mary is the mother of _________.

Fill in the blank. Please.

[Thinkin' Gal]

But it would cause outrage in the Muslim community

What doesn't?

[nopardons]

You're being ridiculous beyond belief.