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U.S. govt gets giant cross in San Diego [with President Bush's signature...........]
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Posted on 08/14/2006 4:45:21 PM PDT by Sub-Driver
U.S. govt gets giant cross in San Diego
By ERICA WERNER, Associated Press Writer 7 minutes ago
A giant cross in San Diego that's been contested for 17 years by an atheist became the property of the federal government Monday with President Bush's signature.
Supporters hope the legislation transferring the 29-foot cross and war memorial it's a part of to the federal government will protect it for good. A series of court decisions have deemed the cross unconstitutional because it stands on public property.
"Just because something may have a religious connotation doesn't mean you destroy it and tear it down," said Rep. Brian Bilbray, R-Calif., after an Oval Office signing ceremony attended by other cross supporters and Republican House members from San Diego who sponsored the bill.
"It's a great victory for our veterans," said House Armed Services Committee Chairman Duncan Hunter, R-Calif.
But the legal fight that began in 1989 when atheist Philip Paulson sued San Diego over the cross is not played out yet.
Paulson's attorney, Jim McElroy, said he filed papers in federal court in San Diego last week to void the transfer and declare it unconstitutional.
"I don't think anybody really thinks the cross is going to remain on Mt. Soledad. It's been 17 years of litigation, and every court, every judge who's ever looked at it has ruled it's unconstitutional," McElroy said.
The bill signing "smacks of election-year politics," he said.
Paulson, a Vietnam War veteran, contends that the cross, dedicated in 1954 in honor of Korean War veterans, excludes veterans who are not Christian.
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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: billsigning; bush; churchandstate; cross; mtsoledad; warmemorial
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To: ChadGore
Aw, shucks... thanks for the kind words. I'm loving Texas, and miss making videos, too. Hopefully soon...
Best,
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posted on
08/14/2006 5:40:36 PM PDT
by
AnnaZ
(I think so, Brain, but if we give peas a chance, won't the lima beans feel left out?)
To: muawiyah
They dumped the oil derricks and the poor Goddess Pomona as well. Whadda miserable bunch...
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posted on
08/14/2006 5:42:40 PM PDT
by
AnnaZ
(I think so, Brain, but if we give peas a chance, won't the lima beans feel left out?)
To: billhilly
Just another reason to appreciate President Bush.
I agree.
Much as the president raises my blood pressure every time he attempts to deal with the illegal alien invasion of our country, I can't imagine a democrat stepping in to save this cross.
So this is something to savor, definitely.
To: Cobra64
"Don't the locals appreciate our military?"
The locals voted overwhelmingly to keep the Cross however the ACLU doesn't care what the majority want, only that the 1 was offended.
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posted on
08/14/2006 5:44:52 PM PDT
by
loboinok
(Gun control is hitting what you aim at!)
To: Sub-Driver
To ACLU: Up yours! Go back to the Soviet Union, this is a Judeo/Christian country!!!!
To: Just A Nobody
EXACTLY what you said! Those who let an anti-American minority bully the majority show their own true colors.
And we're not going to tolerate their intolerance.
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posted on
08/14/2006 6:56:05 PM PDT
by
The Spirit Of Allegiance
(Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
To: Sub-Driver
My thoughts on Philip Paulson, Jim McElroy, the ACLU and other socialist scumbags:
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posted on
08/14/2006 7:04:05 PM PDT
by
Outland
(Sustainable Horse Puckey)
To: Sub-Driver
True victory would be for the cross to remain where it is without need for any Federal action.
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posted on
08/14/2006 7:23:33 PM PDT
by
keats5
(tolerance of intolerant people is cultural suicide)
To: Sub-Driver
A great win against the ACLU!
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posted on
08/14/2006 7:29:39 PM PDT
by
Maelstorm
(The peace of slow poison offers no comfort to those who are left burying the dead.)
To: keats5
Yes that is right. It is hard to believe that these types of cases are even being brought. They are based only in the modern fiction of the Separation of Church and State.
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posted on
08/14/2006 7:32:06 PM PDT
by
Maelstorm
(The peace of slow poison offers no comfort to those who are left burying the dead.)
To: The Spirit Of Allegiance
And we're not going to tolerate their intolerance. AMEN! ;*)
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posted on
08/14/2006 7:36:36 PM PDT
by
Just A Nobody
(NEVER AGAIN..Support our Troops! www.irey.com and www.vets4Irey.com - Now more than Ever!)
To: Sub-Driver
Roger Hedgecock talked about this the other day. The memorial honors his father, among other decorated veterans.
To: american_ranger
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posted on
08/14/2006 7:44:23 PM PDT
by
F.J. Mitchell
(But who or what can check or balance the appointed for life, dictatorial US Supreme Court?)
To: RDTF; 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; american colleen; annalex; ...
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posted on
08/14/2006 8:41:01 PM PDT
by
Coleus
(Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
To: Sub-Driver
Paulson, a Vietnam War veteran, contends that the cross, dedicated in 1954 in honor of Korean War veterans, excludes veterans who are not Christian. The cross never excludes anyone, but anyone can exclude the cross...
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posted on
08/14/2006 9:47:39 PM PDT
by
American in Israel
(A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
To: Sub-Driver
This should've happened years and years ago. All along there have been crazy courts, judges always moving goal posts, lilly-livered politicians, multiple thwartings of the will of the voter... it's been a study in what's *wrong* with gov't.
Am glad this happened.
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posted on
08/14/2006 11:58:20 PM PDT
by
newzjunkey
(Support Arnold-McClintock or embrace higher taxes, gay weddings with Angelides.)
To: Sub-Driver
After two decades, the Left is still frustrated they haven't torn down the hated cross. How that must stick in their craw!
(Go Israel, Go! Slap 'Em Down Hezbullies.)
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posted on
08/15/2006 12:01:46 AM PDT
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
To: Sub-Driver
I have the feeling the cross will still be there long after Shrill Phil has gone to his just reward.
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posted on
08/15/2006 12:33:07 AM PDT
by
WestVirginiaRebel
(Common sense will do to liberalism what the atomic bomb did to Nagasaki-Rush Limbaugh)
To: AnnaZ
God Bless you President Bush.
Hey Phillip and the rest of the ACLU!!!!!!
You're all invited to a BBQ at my place down here in Texas!!
Lottsa meat. No veggies and when we're thru,.... we're gonna have a "Come to Jesus" meeting out in the backyard. And then I'm gonna smack everyone of you dumasses up the side of your dumb ol' heads before you get out the front door.
Oh!!!! I forgot. FREE BEER will be served.
That'll get the liberals to show up. They only show up for the FREE STUFF.
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posted on
08/15/2006 1:15:11 AM PDT
by
ElephantinTexas
(But IF the Islamofascists win their war, they have no PLAN. Kinda like the DemokRATS.)
To: Sub-Driver
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posted on
08/15/2006 5:10:54 AM PDT
by
bmwcyle
(Only stupid people would vote for McCain, Warner, Hagle, Snowe, Graham, or any RINO)
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