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To: Condor51
I suggest you take your own advice and try reading the US Constitution. The rights of citizenship do NOT extend to NON citizens. Also, IF Citizens combined with non citizen (aka Terrorist groups) they are in a state of insurrection. As such they have forfeited their right to protection under or laws as enemies of our civil society. WE, the Citizens, via the intuition of OUR elected Government have the right to expect our Govt to protect us from those who want to destroy us. This clearly falls under the Commander in Chiefs powers to repel sudden attack.

Utterly pathetic to listen to all this hysteric bombast about the US Constitution from people who CLEARLY have NO clue what they are talking about. You better believe the VERY first people to start whining if we ever get attack against will be these SAME people so paranoid about us trying to protecting ourselves now!

11 posted on 08/14/2006 7:44:16 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (History shows us that if you are not willing to fight, you better be prepared to die)
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To: MNJohnnie
A look back into history to see the conservative reaction to Clinton"s terror Bill after the first WTC bombing is enlightening...

GUN OWNERS OF AMERICA

8001 Forbes Place / Suite 102 / Springfield, VA 22151 / (703) 321-8585 / FAX (703) 321-8408

For Immediate Release
Contact: Kathleen Gennaro
December 6, 1995
(703)321-8585

GOA Opposes Government Terror Bills

(Washington, D.C.) -- Gun Owners of America today joined several organizations in opposing the existing terror bills in the Congress. The groups included such diverse organizations as the American Civil Liberties Union, the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers and the National Rifle Association.

"Representative Henry Hyde, sponsor of the House terrorism bill, has become the Mad Bomber of the Bill of Rights," said GOA Executive Director Larry Pratt. "His bill will give the Mark Fuhrman's of the world greater power and will ignore Constitutional safeguards.

"Fuhrman displayed his contempt for the Constitution during the O.J. Simpson trial. We don't need to give his kind more power in the name of fighting terrorism," Pratt said.

The House of Representatives is expected to vote on H.R. 1710 next week. The coalition to reform law enforcement is sending a letter to House Speaker Newt Gingrich today, expressing the group's opposition to any bill containing the following six points:

* Defining terrorism so broadly that even a person like Bernie Goetz, who used a gun in self-defense, could be prosecuted as a "terrorist";

* Involvement of the military in law enforcement;

* Depriving people of liberty based on secret evidence;

* Designating disfavored groups as "terrorist" organizations;

* FBI investigating individuals without evidence of criminality; and,

* Government wiretapping and ignoring the exclusionary rule.

We should think always that every new law may be enforced by our worst enemies. Think about maybe a Hillary Clinton enforcing these laws to 'investigate' conservatives.

13 posted on 08/14/2006 8:25:16 AM PDT by KDD (A wink is as good as a nod to a blind horse.)
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