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Original moon landing film lost
London Daily Telegraph via The Washington Times ^ | August 14, 2006 | Robert Colvile

Posted on 08/13/2006 10:31:14 PM PDT by seacapn

The original film footage of astronaut Neil Armstrong's first steps on the moon, one of the most important artifacts of the 20th century, has been lost.

The television broadcast seen by about 600 million people in July 1969 is preserved for posterity, but the original tapes from which the footage was taken have been mislaid, most likely in NASA's vast archives at the Goddard Space Flight Center in Maryland.

The footage could transform our view of the moon landings, offering images far sharper than the blurred, grainy video shown around the world. It also could lay to rest the conspiracy theory that the landings were faked on a Hollywood soundstage.

Despite its iconic status, the television footage was the equivalent of a photocopy of a photocopy. It came from a camera that had been pointed at a black-and-white monitor on Earth. The image on the monitor, in turn, had been stripped of much of its detail.

To make sure the transmission would make it back to Earth, the images sent from Apollo 11 were recorded at 10 frames per second, and had to be converted to 60 frames per second in order to be broadcast. In the process, much of the detail was lost.

Stan Lebar, now 81, was in charge of the images from Apollo 11. What he saw was so blurred that he initially thought something had gone wrong.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: apollo11; artbell; conspiracy; film; gramsci; incompetence; missing; moonlanding; nasa; preservation
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To: advance_copy
It's not lost. The government is hiding it becuase the tape shows illegal aliens
in the background. And they're doing jobs that no American will do.



121 posted on 08/14/2006 2:24:56 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: taxesareforever

The television camera was packed aboard the Modular Equipment Stowage Assembly (MESA). This was a bay of equipment strapped to the side of the lunar module and wrapped in insulation. It contained the astronauts' tools and supplies for their surface mission. Once on the surface it could be lowered like a drawbridge.

Because it was a prime publicity moment, NASA had to figure out a way to televise the first footsteps on the moon. They did this by arranging for Neil Armstrong to be able to open the MESA while still on the ladder by means of a lanyard connected to the MESA latch.

Once opened automatically, the television camera on a special strut would spring into place and begin transmitting. It was pre-aimed at the ladder. The Apollo 11 press kit distributed in 1969 even contains a diagram showing journalists what they should expect to see with this television camera. http://www.clavius.org/mesacam.html


122 posted on 08/14/2006 2:42:33 PM PDT by cabojoe
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To: Defend the Second


Gene Cernan lives about 15 miles from me. Maybe I should just go ask him if we really landed on the moon...;o)
123 posted on 08/14/2006 2:48:38 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life)
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To: spinestein
Anyone who thinks that the moon landings were a hoax

All the proof I'd ever need was that Uncle Walter would never have gone along with such U.S. Government deception...

124 posted on 08/14/2006 3:11:45 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (Meep Meep)
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To: taxesareforever; Defend the Second
Defend the Second wrote:
No one has mentioned it yet, but there is also the little detail of 800+ pounds of lunar rocks we have in the labs.

To which you replied:
Hey, I have a bunch of rocks over here. They are all from moon. Prove that they aren't.

A trained geologist can identify lunar rock by examining the chemical composition, the ratio of elemental isotopes of the sample, the texture of the mineral, etc. All of these factors are characteristically different in lunar rock than from terrestial rocks. Using such techniques and by comparing samples obtained from the Apollo missions, geologists have been able to identify that some meteorites are made from lunar material; meaning they were blasted off the moon by meteor impact, and the ejected moon rocks were trapped by the earth's gravity and landed on the earth.

125 posted on 08/14/2006 3:48:43 PM PDT by Liberal Classic (No better friend, no worse enemy. Semper Fi.)
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To: cabojoe

Wow, that makes it clear as a bell. NOT!


126 posted on 08/14/2006 5:09:10 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: Liberal Classic
A trained geologist can identify lunar rock by examining the chemical composition, the ratio of elemental isotopes of the sample, the texture of the mineral, etc.

How does he know? He has to have lunar rock in the first place. I say no one has any.

127 posted on 08/14/2006 5:10:39 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: Lancey Howard

LOL!


129 posted on 08/14/2006 5:12:02 PM PDT by cyborg (No I don't miss the single life at all.)
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To: TropicalFishGuy
There is no way to argue with someone who doesn't think rationally.

Who's arguing? All I am doing is stating some facts, unlike the other side who only spouts what they have heard.

130 posted on 08/14/2006 6:33:40 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: taxesareforever; TropicalFishGuy; Liberal Classic; ErnBatavia; cabojoe; reagandemo; Skooz; ...
[How did the camera get out there and get set up if Armstrong was the first man to set foot on the moon?]



Alright, this last reply by "taxesforever" confirms what I've suspected all along; he's just getting his jollies by yanking our chains. Nobody could say something that doltish without doing it on purpose.

It was funny for awhile "tf" (ho, ho, ho.) but I'm bored with this game and I've got more interesting threads to read.

Bye.
131 posted on 08/14/2006 9:51:10 PM PDT by spinestein (Follow The Brazen Rule)
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132 posted on 08/14/2006 9:51:38 PM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: Larry Lucido
From Wikipedia:

According to the HBO mini-series From the Earth to the Moon, Michael Collins made the following suggestion as to what Armstrong should say upon stepping onto the lunar surface: "If you had any balls, you'd say 'Oh, my God, what is that thing?' then scream and cut your mic."

133 posted on 08/14/2006 10:12:57 PM PDT by Ready4Freddy (Hey, look man, I didn't mean to shoot the son of a b!tch. The gun went off. I don't know why.)
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To: spinestein
Nobody could say something that doltish without doing it on purpose.

I assume you are referring to the statement that the U.S. put men on the moon. Matter of fact, where is a closeup photo of the cow?

134 posted on 08/14/2006 10:57:52 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: taxesareforever; Incorrigible; dighton

Callahan, is that you?


135 posted on 08/15/2006 7:04:07 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: taxesareforever

And those moon rocks come from where?


136 posted on 08/15/2006 9:29:53 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: spinestein

Or the laser reflectors?


137 posted on 08/15/2006 9:30:31 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: <1/1,000,000th%; RadioAstronomer
Or the laser reflectors?

I was hoping someone would mention that.

Additionally, there is the matter that the comms were monitorable by hams equipped with sufficiently robust equipment - if they didn't orginate from the lunar surface, but instead were transmitted from lunar orbit, then they would exhibit Doppler drift, and would have gone out of range everytime the capsule went behind the moon.

Neither effect was observed by hams, or else they would have reported the anomaly. And so would the Russians, who had every reason to want to debunk a faked American space acheivement.

138 posted on 08/15/2006 5:32:27 PM PDT by longshadow (FReeper #405, entering his ninth year of ignoring nitwits, nutcases, and recycled newbies)
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To: longshadow

http://www.moonmovie.com/moonmovie/default.asp?ID=6


139 posted on 08/15/2006 6:16:07 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: pillut48

OJ


140 posted on 08/15/2006 6:25:25 PM PDT by gathersnomoss
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