Posted on 08/13/2006 6:07:12 AM PDT by InfantryMarine
Hatin on Hillary: N.H. *** Dems *** lambaste Clinton
Brett Arends -Boston Herald
MANCHESTER, N.H. - Dick Bennett has been polling New Hampshire voters for 30 years. And hes never seen anything like it.
Lying b**** . . . shrew . . . Machiavellian . . . evil, power-mad witch . . . the ultimate self-serving politician.
No prizes for guessing which presidential front-runner drew these remarks in focus groups.
But these werent Republicans talking about Hillary Clinton. They werent even independents.
These were ordinary, grass-roots Democrats. People who identified themselves as likely voters in the pivotal states Democratic primary. And, behind closed doors, this is what nearly half of them are saying.
I was amazed, says Bennett. I thought there might be some negatives, but I didnt know it would be as strong as this. Its stunning, the similarities between the Republicans and the Democrats, the comments they have about her.
Bennett runs American Research Group Inc., a highly regarded, independent polling company based in Manchester, N.H. Hes been conducting voter surveys there since 1976. The polls are financed by subscribers and corporate sponsors.
He has so far recruited 410 likely voters in the 2008 Democratic primary, and sat down with them privately in small groups to find out what they really think about the candidates and the issues.
His conclusion? Forty-five percent of the Democrats are just as negative about her as Republicans are. More Republicans dislike her, but the Democrats dislike her in the same way.
Hillarys growing brain trust in the partys upper reaches already knows she has high negatives among ordinary Democrats. They think she can win those voters over with the right strategy and message.
But they should get out of D.C., New York and L.A. more often, and visit grassroots members.
Because were not talking about soft negatives like, say, out of touch or arrogant.
Were talking: Criminal . . . megalomaniac . . . fraud . . . dangerous . . . devil incarnate . . . satanic . . . power freak.
Satanic.
And: Political wh***.
(Note: I dont usually like reporting such personal remarks, but in this case you can hardly understand the situation without them. I have no strong personal feelings about the senator.)
There are caveats. Any survey can be inaccurate or misleading. And 55 percent of ARGs sample was either neutral or positive about Sen. Clinton. Thirty-two percent currently say they plan to vote for her in the primary.
But Bennett says hes never before seen so many N.H. voters show so much hatred toward a member of their own party. Hes never even seen anything close.
He believes top national Democrats are missing this grassroots intensity. Instead, he suspects, they are blinded by poll numbers, which give Hillary a big early lead based on her name recognition.
Larry Sabato, director of the University of Virginias Center for Politics, agrees.
There is far more anti-Hillary sentiment in the Democratic Party than the pollsters understand, he says. In the race for the nomination, she is ripe for plucking, he says.
Sen. Clintons team could not be reached for comment.
New Hampshire is small, but its a bellwether state with clout.
Its primary probably holds the key to the Democratic nomination. And New Hampshire, alone, swung from Bush to Kerry in 04.
Its hard to see any Democrat winning the White House without carrying the state in the presidential election. And its hard, right now, to see Hillary carrying the state.
Brett Arends
MANCHESTER, N.H. - Dick Bennett has been polling New Hampshire voters for 30 years. And hes never seen anything like it.
Lying b**** . . . shrew . . . Machiavellian . . . evil, power-mad witch . . . the ultimate self-serving politician.
No prizes for guessing which presidential front-runner drew these remarks in focus groups.
But these werent Republicans talking about Hillary Clinton. They werent even independents.
These were ordinary, grass-roots Democrats. People who identified themselves as likely voters in the pivotal states Democratic primary. And, behind closed doors, this is what nearly half of them are saying.
I was amazed, says Bennett. I thought there might be some negatives, but I didnt know it would be as strong as this. Its stunning, the similarities between the Republicans and the Democrats, the comments they have about her.
Bennett runs American Research Group Inc., a highly regarded, independent polling company based in Manchester, N.H. Hes been conducting voter surveys there since 1976. The polls are financed by subscribers and corporate sponsors.
He has so far recruited 410 likely voters in the 2008 Democratic primary, and sat down with them privately in small groups to find out what they really think about the candidates and the issues.
His conclusion? Forty-five percent of the Democrats are just as negative about her as Republicans are. More Republicans dislike her, but the Democrats dislike her in the same way.
Hillarys growing brain trust in the partys upper reaches already knows she has high negatives among ordinary Democrats. They think she can win those voters over with the right strategy and message.
But they should get out of D.C., New York and L.A. more often, and visit grassroots members.
Because were not talking about soft negatives like, say, out of touch or arrogant.
Were talking: Criminal . . . megalomaniac . . . fraud . . . dangerous . . . devil incarnate . . . satanic . . . power freak.
Satanic.
And: Political wh***.
(Note: I dont usually like reporting such personal remarks, but in this case you can hardly understand the situation without them. I have no strong personal feelings about the senator.)
There are caveats. Any survey can be inaccurate or misleading. And 55 percent of ARGs sample was either neutral or positive about Sen. Clinton. Thirty-two percent currently say they plan to vote for her in the primary.
But Bennett says hes never before seen so many N.H. voters show so much hatred toward a member of their own party. Hes never even seen anything close.
He believes top national Democrats are missing this grassroots intensity. Instead, he suspects, they are blinded by poll numbers, which give Hillary a big early lead based on her name recognition.
Larry Sabato, director of the University of Virginias Center for Politics, agrees.
There is far more anti-Hillary sentiment in the Democratic Party than the pollsters understand, he says. In the race for the nomination, she is ripe for plucking, he says.
Sen. Clintons team could not be reached for comment.
New Hampshire is small, but its a bellwether state with clout.
Its primary probably holds the key to the Democratic nomination. And New Hampshire, alone, swung from Bush to Kerry in 04.
Its hard to see any Democrat winning the White House without carrying the state in the presidential election. And its hard, right now, to see Hillary carrying the state.
08 will be VERY ugly, especially if Hillary is the Dem nominee
LOL well said LOL
Soylent green is democrats soylent green is democrats!!!
I'd like to believe that Hillary has no chance of being nominated, but who's going to stop her? Most of the people mentioned as potential candidates in 2008 seem too weak to pose a threat to her ambitions. Maybe someone can come out of nowhere the way Dean did in 2003/2004...but Hillary's people will be working overtime to sabotage any candidate like that before he gains momentum. There was a power vacuum on the Democratic side in 2004, and vacuous Kerry filled it...there won't be a vacuum waiting to be filled in 2008.
I just love it when the RATS eat their own. This is going to be a fun campaign. :o)
The Hlidabeast carries lots of baggage , starting from the 1970s to date . A well planed opposition by a political group , say like the Swift Boat gents could put an end to the Beast by making a documentary of her liberal life . Start with the Black Panthers she defended in the 70s right up to the present time as she attempts to avoid paying taxes on a two million dollar gift from Peter Paul and an awful lot of good stuff in between . the republicans need a Geo. Soros or a Mickey Moore of there own . I hope doug from upland is working on such a project as I type . . .
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