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Hatin’ on Hillary: N.H. *** Dems *** lambaste Clinton
Boston Herald ^

Posted on 08/13/2006 6:07:12 AM PDT by InfantryMarine

Hatin’ on Hillary: N.H. *** Dems *** lambaste Clinton

Brett Arends -Boston Herald

MANCHESTER, N.H. - Dick Bennett has been polling New Hampshire voters for 30 years. And he’s never seen anything like it.

“Lying b**** . . . shrew . . . Machiavellian . . . evil, power-mad witch . . . the ultimate self-serving politician.”

No prizes for guessing which presidential front-runner drew these remarks in focus groups.

But these weren’t Republicans talking about Hillary Clinton. They weren’t even independents.

These were ordinary, grass-roots Democrats. People who identified themselves as “likely” voters in the pivotal state’s Democratic primary. And, behind closed doors, this is what nearly half of them are saying.

“I was amazed,” says Bennett. “I thought there might be some negatives, but I didn’t know it would be as strong as this. It’s stunning, the similarities between the Republicans and the Democrats, the comments they have about her.”

Bennett runs American Research Group Inc., a highly regarded, independent polling company based in Manchester, N.H. He’s been conducting voter surveys there since 1976. The polls are financed by subscribers and corporate sponsors.

He has so far recruited 410 likely voters in the 2008 Democratic primary, and sat down with them privately in small groups to find out what they really think about the candidates and the issues.

His conclusion? “Forty-five percent of the Democrats are just as negative about her as Republicans are. More Republicans dislike her, but the Democrats dislike her in the same way.”

Hillary’s growing brain trust in the party’s upper reaches already knows she has high “negatives” among ordinary Democrats. They think she can win those voters over with the right strategy and message.

But they should get out of D.C., New York and L.A. more often, and visit grassroots members.

Because we’re not talking about “soft” negatives like, say, “out of touch” or “arrogant.”

We’re talking: “Criminal . . . megalomaniac . . . fraud . . . dangerous . . . devil incarnate . . . satanic . . . power freak.”

Satanic.

And: “Political wh***.”

(Note: I don’t usually like reporting such personal remarks, but in this case you can hardly understand the situation without them. I have no strong personal feelings about the senator.)

There are caveats. Any survey can be inaccurate or misleading. And 55 percent of ARG’s sample was either neutral or positive about Sen. Clinton. Thirty-two percent currently say they plan to vote for her in the primary.

But Bennett says he’s never before seen so many N.H. voters show so much hatred toward a member of their own party. He’s never even seen anything close.

He believes top national Democrats are missing this grassroots intensity. Instead, he suspects, they are blinded by poll numbers, which give Hillary a big early lead based on her name recognition.

Larry Sabato, director of the University of Virginia’s Center for Politics, agrees.

“There is far more anti-Hillary sentiment in the Democratic Party than the pollsters understand,” he says. In the race for the nomination, “she is ripe for plucking,” he says.

Sen. Clinton’s team could not be reached for comment.

New Hampshire is small, but it’s a bellwether state with clout.

Its primary probably holds the key to the Democratic nomination. And New Hampshire, alone, swung from Bush to Kerry in ’04.

It’s hard to see any Democrat winning the White House without carrying the state in the presidential election. And it’s hard, right now, to see Hillary carrying the state.

Brett Arends

MANCHESTER, N.H. - Dick Bennett has been polling New Hampshire voters for 30 years. And he’s never seen anything like it.

“Lying b**** . . . shrew . . . Machiavellian . . . evil, power-mad witch . . . the ultimate self-serving politician.”

No prizes for guessing which presidential front-runner drew these remarks in focus groups.

But these weren’t Republicans talking about Hillary Clinton. They weren’t even independents.

These were ordinary, grass-roots Democrats. People who identified themselves as “likely” voters in the pivotal state’s Democratic primary. And, behind closed doors, this is what nearly half of them are saying.

“I was amazed,” says Bennett. “I thought there might be some negatives, but I didn’t know it would be as strong as this. It’s stunning, the similarities between the Republicans and the Democrats, the comments they have about her.”

Bennett runs American Research Group Inc., a highly regarded, independent polling company based in Manchester, N.H. He’s been conducting voter surveys there since 1976. The polls are financed by subscribers and corporate sponsors.

He has so far recruited 410 likely voters in the 2008 Democratic primary, and sat down with them privately in small groups to find out what they really think about the candidates and the issues.

His conclusion? “Forty-five percent of the Democrats are just as negative about her as Republicans are. More Republicans dislike her, but the Democrats dislike her in the same way.”

Hillary’s growing brain trust in the party’s upper reaches already knows she has high “negatives” among ordinary Democrats. They think she can win those voters over with the right strategy and message.

But they should get out of D.C., New York and L.A. more often, and visit grassroots members.

Because we’re not talking about “soft” negatives like, say, “out of touch” or “arrogant.”

We’re talking: “Criminal . . . megalomaniac . . . fraud . . . dangerous . . . devil incarnate . . . satanic . . . power freak.”

Satanic.

And: “Political wh***.”

(Note: I don’t usually like reporting such personal remarks, but in this case you can hardly understand the situation without them. I have no strong personal feelings about the senator.)

There are caveats. Any survey can be inaccurate or misleading. And 55 percent of ARG’s sample was either neutral or positive about Sen. Clinton. Thirty-two percent currently say they plan to vote for her in the primary.

But Bennett says he’s never before seen so many N.H. voters show so much hatred toward a member of their own party. He’s never even seen anything close.

He believes top national Democrats are missing this grassroots intensity. Instead, he suspects, they are blinded by poll numbers, which give Hillary a big early lead based on her name recognition.

Larry Sabato, director of the University of Virginia’s Center for Politics, agrees.

“There is far more anti-Hillary sentiment in the Democratic Party than the pollsters understand,” he says. In the race for the nomination, “she is ripe for plucking,” he says.

Sen. Clinton’s team could not be reached for comment.

New Hampshire is small, but it’s a bellwether state with clout.

Its primary probably holds the key to the Democratic nomination. And New Hampshire, alone, swung from Bush to Kerry in ’04.

It’s hard to see any Democrat winning the White House without carrying the state in the presidential election. And it’s hard, right now, to see Hillary carrying the state.


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To: ChildOfThe60s

08 will be VERY ugly, especially if Hillary is the Dem nominee


LOL well said LOL


21 posted on 08/13/2006 7:54:01 AM PDT by lakeman (when a marine kills the only thing he feels is the recoil of his rifle)
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To: InfantryMarine

Soylent green is democrats soylent green is democrats!!!


22 posted on 08/13/2006 7:54:55 AM PDT by lakeman (when a marine kills the only thing he feels is the recoil of his rifle)
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To: InfantryMarine
New Hampshire is small, but it’s a bellwether state with clout

And New Hampshire, alone, swung from Bush to Kerry in ’04.


The MSM is really on the way out.
23 posted on 08/13/2006 8:04:43 AM PDT by Vision (“I press on toward the goal to win the prize for which God has called me" Philippians 3:14)
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To: InfantryMarine
I've been saying this in this forum, going back to when the idea of Hildabeast running for President first emerged ... she will never step foot in our nation's WH as President of this country. Her negatives on a national scale are overwhelming, New York might have been duped into electing her to the U.S. senate (due to Guiliani withdrawing from the senate race for health related reasons) but that's it in terms of Hillary advancing any further politically. Once again ... Hillary will never sit in the Oval office as President of this country. Even, I suspect, Hildabeast is aware that she's unelectable in a national election.
24 posted on 08/13/2006 8:06:52 AM PDT by BluH2o
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To: lionheart 247365
Bill Clinton lost the NH primary in 1992 but still won the nomination...it's not a "do or die" situation.

I'd like to believe that Hillary has no chance of being nominated, but who's going to stop her? Most of the people mentioned as potential candidates in 2008 seem too weak to pose a threat to her ambitions. Maybe someone can come out of nowhere the way Dean did in 2003/2004...but Hillary's people will be working overtime to sabotage any candidate like that before he gains momentum. There was a power vacuum on the Democratic side in 2004, and vacuous Kerry filled it...there won't be a vacuum waiting to be filled in 2008.

25 posted on 08/13/2006 10:40:37 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: InfantryMarine

I just love it when the RATS eat their own. This is going to be a fun campaign. :o)


26 posted on 08/13/2006 10:42:33 AM PDT by NRA2BFree (LIBERAL WOMEN HAVE HIGHER TESTOSTERONE LEVELS THAN LIBERAL MEN DO! EXAMPLE: HILLARY VS: JOHN KERRY!)
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To: Verginius Rufus

The Hlidabeast carries lots of baggage , starting from the 1970s to date . A well planed opposition by a political group , say like the Swift Boat gents could put an end to the Beast by making a documentary of her liberal life . Start with the Black Panthers she defended in the 70s right up to the present time as she attempts to avoid paying taxes on a two million dollar gift from Peter Paul and an awful lot of good stuff in between . the republicans need a Geo. Soros or a Mickey Moore of there own . I hope doug from upland is working on such a project as I type . . .


27 posted on 08/14/2006 4:54:52 AM PDT by lionheart 247365 (( I.S.L.A.M. stands for - Islams Spiritual Leaders Advocate Murder .. .. .. ))
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