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Nasrallah: We will abide by cease-fire ("We won! We defeated the invincible army.")
Jerusalem Post ^ | August 12, 2006

Posted on 08/12/2006 3:30:14 PM PDT by Shermy

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To: Shermy

This won't last 6 months.


41 posted on 08/12/2006 3:54:52 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: Jack2006

""There is a difference between fighting those who don't wear uniforms and hit and run and fighting an army.""

Until a few days ago it was Israel playing hit and run, and Hezb. stood its ground. Incursions, abandoning gains, terrs come back.

Olmert tried to do this without taking land and mobilizing few units. It was an utter military, political and moral failure.

Within the last few days Israel is doing what it should have done...invading to the Litani, cleaning out rockets and Hezb. men. And they got to the river quickly.

Why didn't they do it sooner? Israeli papers were demanding this logical step.

We will find out more about Olmert's weakness in the weeks to come.


42 posted on 08/12/2006 3:56:27 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Prokopton

I am amazed at how much smarter everyone is that Israel.


43 posted on 08/12/2006 3:58:15 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand ("These formidable people....will die for Liberty")
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To: popdonnelly

"... biggest regret is that this useless "holy man" didn't catch a bullet."

I was thinking the same......BUT.....the lebanese who were displaced by this response to nasrallahs unwarranted antagonization of Israel will soon start to feel the full impact of what it brought forth by way of consequences.

I'm thinking that nasrallah will soon find himself in Israeli hands, via some Lebanese patriots.


44 posted on 08/12/2006 3:58:24 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: Shermy

I hope the clause about Israel being able to continue defensive actions, does not get interpreted Hezbullah can unilaterally break the cease fire and Israel can only play defense.


45 posted on 08/12/2006 3:58:37 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: the invisib1e hand
that is, than Israel.
46 posted on 08/12/2006 3:58:37 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand ("These formidable people....will die for Liberty")
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To: Proud_USA_Republican
"According to muslim mentality, the germans won WW2 because it took till 1945 for the allies to reach Berlin. "

Of course - and even more: most of Germans survived, allies suffered losses.
47 posted on 08/12/2006 3:58:39 PM PDT by alecqss
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To: DannyTN
And while Israelis can continue defensive actions, they are entitled to the best defense, which is ...
48 posted on 08/12/2006 4:01:02 PM PDT by alecqss
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

let's hope so - because otherwise, he's going to be elected prime minister of Lebanon. and then those Lebanese forces that make up the "peacekeepers" - will be under his control.


49 posted on 08/12/2006 4:01:09 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: the invisib1e hand

"If she did not accept a "cease fire" agreement that appeared reasonable, she would be labelled "unreasonable.""

Her entire problem is that she cares at all that a label, any label, will be applied to her. As such Israel cannot be said, at this point, to believe in Herself.


50 posted on 08/12/2006 4:02:12 PM PDT by TalBlack
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To: Jack2006

No, eradication should have been the goal.


51 posted on 08/12/2006 4:02:15 PM PDT by Scotsman will be Free
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To: Shermy

sounds like he is getting his back side kicked really good


52 posted on 08/12/2006 4:04:37 PM PDT by camas
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To: TalBlack

I think my #43 sums it up for me.


53 posted on 08/12/2006 4:06:41 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand ("These formidable people....will die for Liberty")
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To: Shermy
Arab commentators and journalists were almost unanimous in saying that Hizbullah had won the war.

There is no question that Israel has played its hand very poorly. In a part of the world where perception is often more important than reality, even the Israeli people have the taste of defeat. That is not good. Olmert should step down as quietly as possible and as soon as possible. The problem is, he thinks his way is right. To paraphrase Texas Jack Garner, "Diplomacy isn't worth a bucket of warm spit." Doubly true in the Middle East.

54 posted on 08/12/2006 4:08:05 PM PDT by JimSEA ( "The purpose of diplomacy is to prolong a crisis." Spock)
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To: Shermy

"But I think behind the lines Hezb. took big hits to offices, assets, factories. Nasrallah isn't peeping about the "prisoners" in Israel any more, his war aim"

I think Israel has done a horrible job of handling the media and PR war of this battle. There should of been more cameras going in with the troops into southern Lebannon to document and provide to the media how much Hezbollah was getting its butts kicked.

All the coverage I've seen of this battle has been of Hezbollah rocket attacks and the damage done to Beirut by the israeli air campaign.

While I'm sure the Israeli army has inflicted heavy damage on Hezbollah in southern Lebannon, their currently is very little proof of this. Once and awhile, you would see video of israelis showing some guns laying on the ground or abandoned buildings that had computers and nightvision equipment, but I yet to see a single picture or video of Hezbollah getting their butts kicked.

This Israel taking the high road mentality with this conflict has given the muslims every oppurtunity to claim victory. While I don't give a crap about the arab media and their insane claims that go against all facts, I haven't been impressed with how the Israeli army handled this battle. They took way too much time pussyfooting around the border in the begining of this battle and trying to be politically correct, instead of giving Hezbollah a boot up the ass for all the world to see.



55 posted on 08/12/2006 4:08:51 PM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: Shermy

"behind the lines Hezb. took big hits to offices, assets, factories. Nasrallah isn't peeping about the "prisoners" in Israel any more, his war aim"

No doubt, this is ultimately predictable Hizbullah spin. They took much heavier losses financially, in man power, and certainly in weaponry than did Israel. They also did not acheive their stated aims of a prisoner exchange, or their more general claim to defend Lebanon's southern border. Not only that but they have now lost their territorial advantage (limiting their future value to Syria and Iran) and an embarrasing amount of very expensive Iranian and Syrian weaponry (the fact that Iran is arming them with missiles is now an internationally known and accepted fact rather than an intelligence claim).
Hizbullah did not win, but it also did not lose as badly as it could have. The sweeping out of missiles and weapons in southern Lebanon that will now take place after the ceasefire during Israel's retreat is the right thing to do, but a large-scale ground-force to neutralize the missile threat should have been sent in first thing. Had that been done, special forces raids could have been sent in farther north to take out Hizbullah's long-range missiles as well as take out Hizbullah's top leadership. Wouldn't it be alot harder for Nasrallah to claim victory from a body-bag?


56 posted on 08/12/2006 4:09:53 PM PDT by Battleofbritain (")
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To: Shermy

is-slim is as is-slime belongs! 6 feet under!

allah is satan, and muuhamhead (Pigs be inseminating him) was his backdoor beeyatch!

57 posted on 08/12/2006 4:11:05 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (I'd rather be carrying a shotgun with Dick, than riding shotgun with a Kennedyl! *-0(:~{>)
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To: Scotsman will be Free

When did Scotsmen become unfree? :)


58 posted on 08/12/2006 4:13:10 PM PDT by Jack2006
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To: Battleofbritain

They won because they can claim they kept Israel out of Lebanon for four weeks.

That was Olmert's doing, but they'll claim it the same.


59 posted on 08/12/2006 4:16:33 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: HitmanLV
Nonsense. You and I here have no idea as to the actual effectiveness of the Israelis during this current operation. The enemy does have support in the Mainstream media and so their losses will not be revealed for a long time if ever. Tet is a very good example. This is getting closer and closer to brass tacks now. We kill them, they kill us let's just do all we can to support the continued and unabated killing of them in ever increasing numbers with ever widening scope.

This is a war to the death with the Islamofacists. We win or get our 8 year old daughters ready to be their two hour "Brides".

We must defeat our Stockholm Syndrome liberals at home. A likely Payola driven Mains Stream Media and the Enemy...

So what's new?

W
60 posted on 08/12/2006 4:16:40 PM PDT by WLR ("fugit impius nemine persequente iustus autem quasi leo confidens absque terrore erit")
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