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Muslims in UK run advertisement AGAINST Blair
via Drudge | Aug 12, 2006

Posted on 08/12/2006 12:26:18 PM PDT by One_who_hopes_to_know

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To: One_who_hopes_to_know

"UK's failure to use its influence to end Israeli attacks on civilians are fuelling extremism at home."

Yep, no problem with Hezbollah attacking "civilians", opps I forgot, they are just apes!


21 posted on 08/12/2006 1:38:39 PM PDT by observer5 (It's not a War on Terror - it's a WAR ON STUPIDITY)
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To: I'mAllRightJack

They have serious issues of surreality in the UK but we have similar issues in the US with our apologist lefties such as Murtha, Kerry, Reid, et al. The core issue is our "disease" of tolerance for people who bring their religious and social intolerance to the free West to take advantage of our open society. They then take advantage of the freedom to try to force upon us their repressive forms of Sharia!.

It needs to be stopped!


22 posted on 08/12/2006 1:49:20 PM PDT by colonialhk (not a sooprize sooprize sooprize)
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To: One_who_hopes_to_know

Reading the article, the question in my mind becomes, "What is the difference between a warning and a threat?"


23 posted on 08/12/2006 1:57:09 PM PDT by JimSEA ( "The purpose of diplomacy is to prolong a crisis." Spock)
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To: Screamname
So I yelled out "Hey Al!" and he turned around and I said, "Do the world a favor, turn around, kick yourself in ass, and shut the f- up!!!"

LMAO! Good for you!

Get us some good pics.

I miss NYC big time. I used to travel there every week. I once had a Cabbie take me from Time Square to Laguardia. He was screaming things out the window at the wackos as we went along. It was funny but I thought he was going to get us killed... I'll never forget it.

Stay safe out there!

24 posted on 08/12/2006 2:00:16 PM PDT by PajamaTruthMafia
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To: One_who_hopes_to_know

Muslims shouldn't even BE in Britain, let alone express an opinion there.

They should all be shipped back - even the ones BORN there or naturalized there.


25 posted on 08/12/2006 2:15:50 PM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: One_who_hopes_to_know

Has Blair thanked them for the help?


26 posted on 08/12/2006 2:38:28 PM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: popdonnelly

He's on holiday.


27 posted on 08/12/2006 2:47:51 PM PDT by Canard
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To: One_who_hopes_to_know

UK muslims, like immigrant muslims everywhere, never stand up for the country they have chosen to live in, but always protest against that country's efforts to maintain its identity in the face of muslim terror. They are not residents or citizens to be trusted. The UK is not a country of mosques, thus, they should be taken down immediately and their clerics just as immediately deported.


28 posted on 08/12/2006 3:10:58 PM PDT by Continental Soldier
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To: Continental Soldier

" The UK is not a country of mosques "
Been there lately , or France or Belgium ?
Its their plan to populate Europe . They themselves say so / The world is asleep my friend BIG TIME. The Muzzies use the freedom they find in the West to strangle the West . Their religion and culture , by it's very nature, is opposed to Western Culture. The 2 can never blend or exist together. This country ( and Europe) must begin blocking immigration from Islamic countries and start deporting all Islamic's who are not citizens . If we don't it's the end of Western civilization. I do not say this lightly.


29 posted on 08/12/2006 3:15:45 PM PDT by sonic109
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To: Screamname

You should have spit on him him . Good work though . I had the pleasure of refusing to shake Jessie Jackson's hand 2 years ago . He was VERY offended . Screw them both.


30 posted on 08/12/2006 3:18:49 PM PDT by sonic109
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To: Canard
there is big opposition in his party to his policy on Lebanon.

Now I could be very, very wrong about this because I am sure that I am not nearly as smart as you. However it appears that you must be one of those ISLAMOFACIST APPEASERS.

I mean ... what else would explain such an ASININE response to this post?
31 posted on 08/12/2006 11:12:33 PM PDT by One_who_hopes_to_know
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Err, what? My post was a factual comment on the political situation in the UK, but whatever!

I'm not so sure how pointing out that there is a large portion of the Labour Party who are very much opposed to the way that Blair has handled the situation with regard to Lebanon (feel free to provide evidence if you disagree with this) makes me an 'Islamofacist appeaser'. In big bold letters no less.


32 posted on 08/13/2006 2:21:17 AM PDT by Canard
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To: Canard
Err, what? My post was a factual comment ...

Oh ? ... Here is what you said ...

I think it was the security forces that caught the terror plot rather than the government to be fair, ...

To be fair ? ... To be fair ?? ... Yes ... let's be fair shall we? ... Who the hell do you think these "security forces" were? They were MI5 which are part of the government. Which happens to be the Blair government at the time. Even the friggin' Soviet Union at its worst never had security forces that answered to no one.

To say that just because Tony Blair did not play Sherlock Holmes and hold the magnifying glass that uncovered the terrorist boot prints, therefore his government does not deserve credit is just plain asinine to say the least. Do you suppose if the terror plot succeeded that the Blair government would have escaped the blame.

Really now ol' chap ... let's be fair ... shall we ?
33 posted on 08/13/2006 6:06:32 AM PDT by One_who_hopes_to_know
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To: One_who_hopes_to_know

Translation: If you don't want to help us kill Israelis, then we will kill you.


34 posted on 08/13/2006 6:34:07 AM PDT by Grateful One
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To: One_who_hopes_to_know

Um, well that's a completely different piece of my post than you quoted the first time and which I replied to your comment on. Although I'm still not sure how any of it would make me an islamofascist apologist or whatever it was.

As I said previously, my main point was to highlight some of the nuances of the political situation in the UK which seem to have escaped you, namely that the people that the article describes opposing Blair's view include some of his natural political allies and some peoples who are actually members of the 'government' who, as you say, are ultimately responsible for the security services who uncovered the plot. And that the views expressed are also held by a fair number of other members of his Parliamentary party.

Fine if you think that's asinine, in boldy print, don't bother replying or considering it. No need to get your knickers in quite such a twist though!


35 posted on 08/13/2006 6:51:24 AM PDT by Canard
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As I said previously, my main point was to highlight some of the nuances of the political situation in the UK which seem to have escaped you ...

It has hardly escaped me when the point of my post dealt directly with the culture in which these muslims operate.

The point of the post was that these muslims can not bring themselves to condemn the terrorist plot. Instead they condemn the government that caught the terrorists.

You pointed out that Blair's stance against terrorism is not wholly supported. This is the same dissembling, irrelevant, non-sequitor that these islamofascist appeasers use when they are called out for not condemning terorism. ... Thus, I called you a islamofascist appeaser.

If in fact you are not, I apologize. Perhaps you are just one of those people that posts whatever is running through your mind at the moment without thinking that you were employing the same tactic as other islamofascist appeasers. If so my apologies, and in that case I would only offer a suggestion that you think about the meaining of your arguments before posting.
36 posted on 08/13/2006 11:02:34 AM PDT by One_who_hopes_to_know
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To: One_who_hopes_to_know

"You pointed out that Blair's stance against terrorism is not wholly supported. This is the same dissembling, irrelevant, non-sequitor that these islamofascist appeasers use when they are called out for not condemning terorism"

No it isn't, it's a (fairly obvious and non-controversial) comment on internal Labour Party politics which involved no particular value judgement on my part. I'm not sure how such a thing can possibly be 'appeasing' anyone. I'm not even sure if you're saying that I should not be discussing the wider political context and implications of this opposition to Blair's policies from within his own party and own supporters. Or if you're saying that I avoid 'appeasement' by declaring that the whole of Blair's party is squarely behind him, even though the statement is clearly false and it's not like I care if the party implodes anyway.


37 posted on 08/13/2006 11:15:45 AM PDT by Canard
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To: Canard
I did not say your argument was untrue. Simply a dissembling non-sequitor which mimics the appeasers.

Lets see if an analogy works ...
1. Police catch rapist planning to capture a neighbor girl.
2. Rapist's family condemn the police as heavy handed thugs.
3. Others in the neighborhood start calling out the rapists family for their immoral stance.
4. Someone pops up and says ... you know there are others in city hall that do not like these policemen.

Ok ... can we guess which item matches your post?
38 posted on 08/13/2006 11:56:59 AM PDT by One_who_hopes_to_know
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To: One_who_hopes_to_know

" Lets see if an analogy works ..."

Not so much. Try:

1. Police catch rapist planning attack.
2. Various members of police force criticise policies of police chief as not being helpful in discouraging rapes in the area.
3. People with an interest in local policing debate the implications of this disagreement in the police force.

I'm not sure I really see the point of posting a thread on a political discussion board if you don't want to, well, discuss politics.


39 posted on 08/13/2006 1:02:54 PM PDT by Canard
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To: Canard
... policies of police chief as not being helpful in discouraging rapes in the area.

Ah YES !!!!

Now we have your point laid out clearly. You believe that somehow the policies of western governments encourage terrorism. Tsk ... tsk ... tsk ... When will the appeasers ever learn that islamofascists want to kill non-muslims simply because they are non-muslim. When you start thinking that our policies have done something to cause this deliberate attack on innocent lives, then you have become an appeaser.
40 posted on 08/13/2006 1:29:04 PM PDT by One_who_hopes_to_know
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