Posted on 08/11/2006 11:49:24 AM PDT by chichilarue
The Spread of Homegrown Terror Are British Muslims really a threat?
By Patrick Basham
The recent homegrown plot in Britain to blow up transatlantic flights will intensify the fear that the country’s 1.6 million Muslims are rejecting political tolerance and free speech for a violent, radicalized version of Islam. There is a real concern that British Muslims do pose a threat to that country and its traditional values. So how prevalent are such radical views among British Muslims?
Some answers are provided by the most comprehensive survey to date of Muslim opinion in Britain. The results from NOP Research, broadcast by Channel 4-TV on August 7, are startling.
Forty-five percent say 9/11 was a conspiracy by the American and Israeli governments. This figure is more than twice as high as those who say it was not a conspiracy. Tragically, almost one in four British Muslims believe that last year’s 7/7 attacks on London were justified because of British support for the U.S.-led war on terror.
When asked, “Is Britain my country or their country?” only one in four say it is. Thirty percent of British Muslims would prefer to live under Sharia (Islamic religious) law than under British law. According to the report, “Half of those who express a preference for living under Sharia law say that, given the choice, they would move to a country governed by those laws.”
Twenty-eight percent hope for the U.K. one day to become a fundamentalist Islamic state. This comports with last year’s Daily Telegraph newspaper survey that found one-third of British Muslims believe that Western society is decadent and immoral and that Muslims should seek to end it.
The news is no less alarming on the question of freedom of speech. Seventy-eight percent support punishment for the people who earlier this year published cartoons featuring the Prophet Mohammed. Sixty-eight percent support the arrest and prosecution of those British people who “insult Islam.” When asked if free speech should be protected, even if it offends religious groups, 62 percent of British Muslims say No, it should not.
Also concerning freedom of speech, as the NOP Research survey reports, “hardcore Islamists” constitute nine percent of the British Muslim population. A slightly more moderate group is composed of “staunch defenders of Islam.” This second group comprises 29 percent of the British Muslim population. Individuals in this group aggressively defend their religion from internal and external threats, real or imagined.
The scary reality is that only three percent of British Muslims “took a consistently pro-freedom of speech line on these questions.” The Muslim threat to British security is so severe that the assistant London police commissioner, Tarique Ghaffur, has called for an inquiry into the radicalization of young Muslims. Ghaffur sadly describes “a generation of angry young people vulnerable to exploitation.”
Before the London bombings, British intelligence services estimated that one percent of British Muslims either support or are involved in terrorism. While this is mainly a peaceful and productive immigrant population, a significant number are prepared to act against their own country.
The British government believes that, in recent years, 3,000 British Muslims have returned home from al Qaeda training camps. Intelligence experts estimate that 1,200 Muslim radicals (80 percent of Pakistani origin) are currently pursuing a terrorist rather than a democratic option to vent their disgust at Tony Blair’s support for America’s invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq and opposition to Hezbollah.
This terrorist weed which is choking the U.K. is especially hard to eradicate, because it is growing in British soil. America’s fastest-growing religion is Islam, but here in the States the numbers are not a security concern, as a commitment to Islam has not overwhelmed a strong attachment to America itself — another victory for the cultural melting pot.
By contrast, the U.K. embraced taxpayer-subsidized multiculturalism and has paid a very dear price, indeed. The result — cultural apartheid — has encouraged a significant number of Muslims to exhibit more loyalty to fellow Muslims outside of the U.K. than to their fellow Britons.
— Patrick Basham is director of the Democracy Institute, a Washington-based think tank
Wow! Ya THINK????? Considering the last two attempts at virtual genocide were carried out by British Muslims, I'm sure it took 007 to figure THAT out!
If the radicals think it's OK to kill you, they sure as heck wouldn't have a problem lying to you.
And exactly what is it that this "generation of young people" is so "angry" about? Surfeit? Plenty? Abundance? Ease? If they lack spiritual fulfillment, maybe they ought to read a book or go to church. Blowing airliners out of the sky has never exactly been a cure for formless urban angst, except amongst the crowd that would be better of with bullets in their heads.
Time for the Brits to help them along.
...“hardcore Islamists” constitute nine percent of the British Muslim population. A slightly more moderate group is composed of “staunch defenders of Islam.” This second group comprises 29 percent of the British Muslim population. Individuals in this group aggressively defend their religion from internal and external threats, real or imagined.
This is bad news indeed.
exactly my point; time to start talking about mass deportations, internments; mental asylum for recent converts (2 of the terrorist were converts)...
there's a british prince I think who converted to Islam...time to strip him of his title.
9 + 29 = 38, a greater percentage than voted Hitler to power; but I think the figures state that over 70% want to see the cartoonists punished.
Nah, in this country our biggest problem will be from Black Muslims and the prison networks. Everyday Muslims in this country tend to assimilate. We're doing that right.
They only need the technology that detects whether or not a towel was previously worn on the suspects head...
haha...or, yeah, also the technology that says his last name is like "Haq Islam Mohammed Mohammed"
seriously, it is simple to keep track of Muslims...as for American Muslims, the activities of CAIR are not heartening. As for Black Muslim converts, like I said, a mental asylum should be prepared for them.
Muslims who are not citizens and from countries that harbor terrorists should be sent home until the war is over. During World War II we didn't educate the German youth... or have them in our country.
I wouldn't be too certain. With the changes in immigration laws, the only immigrants that are not welcome are white Europeans.
This is correct...we let in terrorists or their fellow travelers from the Middle East, but it's impossible for a Dutch citizen, terrorized by Muslims, or for an Afrikaaner, terrorized by African blacks, to immigrate here.
As for what you say about American Muslims...that is very blinkered. Islam is as such a destabilizing and treasonous religion and its practice should be regulated or banned. Just read the figures in this article. Most Muslims, I am sure in the US also, sympathize with terrorists. In fact all religions have fanatics, but they are powerful among Muslims because they get support from the Muslim community. There will only be bigger attacks until we deport/intern most of the Muslim community...you can't use the first amendment as a front for political insurrection.
On right side, a "strict" aisle: here, boarders pass through multiple x-rays, MRI, barking dogs, lecherous old men wearing latex gloves, and lastly members of the NYFD in wife-beaters, holding heavy lead pipes...
On left side, an express aisle: 15-foot long, wall-to-wall, 3-inch deep depression in floor. Thousands of copies of the Koran fill this shallow walkway depression.
Same thing for customs, court-houses, and welfare offices. And DMV. And Wal-Mart
Budget negligible, no unreliable technology, immediately implementable, elevates "seperation of church and state" to unheard-of levels, and strictly speaking, this is NOT ethnic profiling --it's ethnic SELF-profiling!
How many religions were started by a warlord? Islam was. And, Mohammad was probably the biggest "con man" in history.
Terrorism is not an Islamic problem. The fact that all the terrorists are Muslim is pure chance.
True. Every time we hear about Buddhists being hacked apart in Thailand, Christians in East Timor, Westerners everywhere, we should just repeat over and over "this has nothing to do with the majority of peace-loving Muslims. Islam is a religion of piece." This will put us at ease.
Terrorism has nothing to do with the fact that Islam teaches that Jews and Christians are the equivalent of the children of Satan and that the holy-rolling wack-job original terrorist(that's the OT for the hip-hop'n crowd)Muhammad is the greatest prophet ever created. It has nothing to do with the fact that most Islamic countries are filled with millions upon millions of followers who raise their kids on this crap.
Mass deportation is not an answer. They are BRITISH CITIZENS. You cannot deport citizens.
In fact there is no answer in Britian. ITS TOO LATE.
As I have explained before the problem for British Muslims is that through their theocratic outlook and focus on Islam, Muslims have excluded themselves from the mainstream UK knowledge-based economy. As the traditional non-knowledge based industries have DIED OUT in the UK (e.g. Ship / Car building, Coal / Steel, Cotton) Muslims have seen themselves on the outside because having a Certificate in Koran isn't enough to get a job in most service industries where knowledge of MS Excel is more important than an understanding of the Jihadist agenda. Rife with unemployment and dependency on the welfare state parts of London and most of Bradford, Birmingham, Leeds and Manchester are hot-beds of Islamic desolation.
As a result they've found that its easier to use their sheer numbers to bury themselves deep in local government and quasi-governmental institutions (e.g. local councils, agencies and corporations such as the BBC) where MULTICULTURALISM AND RAMPANT POLITICAL CORRECTNESS rather than efficiency of resource consumption is the prevailing mantra.
Now they're deep within these organizations they are eating away at the country from the INSIDE using taxpayer dollars to fund Wahabist Maddrassas in the UK as well as Pakistan that churn out SUICIDE MACHINES for the Palestinian, Chechnyan and Kashmiri TERRORIST MACHINES.
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