Posted on 08/11/2006 8:25:50 AM PDT by Perdogg
Admitting that I don't know a lot about MOAB myself, I think that it's really caught on in pop culture but I don't know the practical utility of it. If I recall correctly, it has to be dumped out the back of a C-130, and is unguided. My gut feeling is, as soon as the politicos get out of the way, the IDF will do what it does.
And the IDF is very, very good at what it does.
The way you win a war is kill and destroy until they say "I surrender", then you take their land. I don't understand the term "limited war".
You watch, we will have trouble there again someday, just like we didn't finish Korea, Viet Nam, Cuba, at the Bay of Pigs, Lebanon, and Iran in the '70's, It all comes back to bite you. The Germans and Japs are "our friends"( I know, I know, but at least they ain't shooting at us), Because we killed their asses until they said "That's enough". In Korea, we got a UN ceasefire. Yeah, that worked. Lebanon will be the same until the Jews go in and topple the government, arrest the Hessbolah's, shoot Nazralla, and change the name to North Israel. Then you can negotiate whatever you want.
You see that Egypt, Jordan, and Syria don't want to take Israel on. They want someone else to do it. They got their butts kicked and don't want to do it again.
I wont be happy till I see the video of Green Helmet Guy screaming "We're in some real pretty chit now man... That's it man, game over man, game over! What the puck are we gonna do now? What are we gonna do? ...
Couldn't agree more.
I certainly hope your right. It is indeed possible that this is an elaborate ruse, it just seems REALLY elaborate if true.
Either way, now that the green light has been given, Hezbollah better get ready for a MAJOR ass-whooping.
LOL!
don't have time for a proper reply so google "set us up the bomb" or maybe "all your base are belong to us" for the oblique reference...
GBU-43/B "Mother Of All Bombs"
MOAB - Massive Ordnance Air Blast Bomb
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/munitions/moab.htm
...The 21,600-pound MOAB is an improved replacement for the unguided 15,000-pound BLU-82 Daisy Cutter. It is 30 feet long with a diameter of 40.5 inches. The warhead is a blast-type warhead. It was developed in only nine weeks to be available for the Iraq campaign, but it was not used in combat.
...Contrary to some reports, it is not capable of deep ground penetration.
...Unlike the Daisy Cutter, the MOAB falls to the ground without the use of a retarding parachute. As a result, the aircraft releasing the bomb can fly at higher altitudes, thus making it safer for US pilots.
...The MOAB weapon kills by way of blast or fragmentation. Blast and fragmentation are historic and common anti-personnel effects in lawful military weapons. There are no components that would cause unnecessary suffering. The explosive ingredient H6 is a widely-used explosive that is typical for weapons of this type. The components RDX and TNT do have some potential toxic effects from long-term exposure, but these are limited and within US government tolerance levels. The potential psychological effect of the weapon does not constitute suffering. The intent is to demoralize or frighten the enemy by impressing them with the large footprint, resulting cloud, and tremendous noise of the explosion.
With that said, KICK A$$
There's a lot of creative comedy on today's threads. What a relief!
Wouldn't that be an October surprise for Bush? LOL
My hope, then, is that the gloves are truly removed and the IDF indeed does what it MUST do. For decades the West has shown the Islamofascists a willingness to talk, to appease, to listen, to bear with patience. It is long past time that these folks learn that there is an end to talking, to appeasing, to listening, to bearing with patience that is SOOOOO terrifying, SOOOOOO horrific, SOOOOOO totally devastating, that they will be inclined toward capitulation next time (should they survive to see the next time.)
At the end of the day, this is what will win the war on terror: a West that is willing to do EVERYTHING THAT IS NECESSARY to ensure the complete destruction of terrorists, their lands, their homes, their way of life, as well as the complete destruction of those that in any way support or give aid/comfort to its practitioners.
What you say?
Bomb them up to the stone age, then stop.
Jimmy Carter's opinion on anything constitutes a negative litmus test. If he's opposed - it's all good.
So, what ordnance solutions are available to the IDF that would be highly effective in bringing the Hezzies out of their bunkers to make the operation less costly? I can't believe that they've exhausted their options at this time.
sounds a bit like when Nixon ordered the bombing of Cambodia. The world freaked but he knew what he had to do. Problem is, public opinion followed the freakage rather than the obvious military strategy. Oh yeah, and we had a draft. (main reason we will not be defeated the same way in Iraq)
NoseDroolah, make your time...
That's been speculated here for a very long time. And I believe it.
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