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Planes vulnerable to bombs built on board, ingredients hidden in daily objects: Experts
The Hindu News ^ | August 10, 2006 | Staff

Posted on 08/10/2006 11:48:06 AM PDT by WmShirerAdmirer

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Article covers the details and history of explosives brought on board an airliner.
1 posted on 08/10/2006 11:48:08 AM PDT by WmShirerAdmirer
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To: WmShirerAdmirer

I'm glad the government is taking this seriously. Took them a decade to do so but better late than never......


2 posted on 08/10/2006 11:50:09 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: WmShirerAdmirer

Man alive... I'm not fond of flying and now this. Supposed to take a trip to Orlando in October, and DC in November.


3 posted on 08/10/2006 11:51:12 AM PDT by mrs tiggywinkle
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To: WmShirerAdmirer
Hey, I have an idea! Why not zero in on the people most likely to blow up a plane! (17-25 year old middle-eastern males)

It's becoming increasingly clear that a determined, intelligent group of people can probably come up with a way to bring down an airplane, regardless of TSA, etc.

Look more for the people, in addition to the tools.

Whaddaya think folks?

4 posted on 08/10/2006 11:51:56 AM PDT by TChris (Banning DDT wasn't about birds. It was about power.)
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To: WmShirerAdmirer

And France's airports have muslim-only prayer rooms. Nice place to go and prep (after clearing security) uninterrupted.


5 posted on 08/10/2006 11:53:17 AM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: TChris

the money triangulation program was a wonderful tool. Probably nabbed these cretins. But the NY Times thought we have the RIGHT to know.


6 posted on 08/10/2006 11:54:08 AM PDT by kinghorse (I calls them like I sees them)
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To: TChris
Look more for the people, in addition to the tools.

Nah. Better to ban inanimate objects. I mean, look how well gun control works.

7 posted on 08/10/2006 11:54:40 AM PDT by prion (Yes, as a matter of fact, I AM the spelling police)
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To: WmShirerAdmirer

5 hours waiting for a plane? Can I buy stock in Amtrack?


8 posted on 08/10/2006 11:54:53 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
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To: WmShirerAdmirer

The days of large carry on bags may be coming to an end.

Anything bigger than a purse or briefcase may need to be checked in stowaway storage.

At the same time, it seems odd to still give the passengers in first class metal knives. Didn't the 911 hijackers ride up front?


9 posted on 08/10/2006 11:55:21 AM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: TChris

Why not shut down the militant mosques enlisting jihadist armies?


10 posted on 08/10/2006 11:56:23 AM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: WmShirerAdmirer

A cartoon I saw after 9/11 depicted all the passengers strapped into their seats - in their birthday suits. Maybe we're approaching "fly nude." (Horrible thought, in the case of most of us!)

Of course, then I read on another thread that there is a possibility that they will be concealing things internally, so I guess even nude isn't good enough.


11 posted on 08/10/2006 11:56:53 AM PDT by livius
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To: TChris

It's a bad idea. As a profile forms, the enemy switches tactics. They just need to get blond haired, blue-eyed Muslim converts to do their bidding. They are already doing this, in fact. Same with babies and the elderly. As soon as we stop checking any group of people, they will become the next carriers, victims of evil people who don't mind killing anyone to do their nefarious deeds.


12 posted on 08/10/2006 11:57:19 AM PDT by twigs
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To: patton

nothing new, huh?

now how about all those liquids
on the beverage carts, right? ;)


13 posted on 08/10/2006 11:57:26 AM PDT by leda (Life is always what you make it!)
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We are going to have to be concerned about the employees who work for vendors that have access to the planes before the public boards. It will be the easiest way to get needed materials on board.


14 posted on 08/10/2006 11:59:26 AM PDT by twigs
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To: mrs tiggywinkle

I've opted to drive when and where I can.

No rental car needed, no undue delays (my flight a couple weeks ago had a 3.5 hour delay and meant that I didn't arrive at my destination until 2am local time and 4am in my normal time). As it was cross country I didn't have much choice but for closer trips (~400 miles) I've been driving for years.


15 posted on 08/10/2006 12:00:02 PM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: WmShirerAdmirer
Critical to conventional bombs is a power source to trigger a detonator

Boy, that is going to be hard to stop. There is enough power in the lights in the bathroom to trigger an explosive. A couple of wires and you can make a circuit. And guess what, you can use the headphones provided for entertainment as a source for the wire. So all you really need is a crystallized explosive like crystallized ether. 20 oz should be enough.

Heck with some explosives, you don't even need an electrical circuit to set it off. I strong blow can set off a lot of stuff.

16 posted on 08/10/2006 12:00:17 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: WmShirerAdmirer

Bump


17 posted on 08/10/2006 12:00:41 PM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: mrs tiggywinkle

Some joke that we'll all have to fly nude.


But it sounds like we're on the way to banning carry on items.

Flying is going to be too much of a hassle. You can't bring liquids on board. Not even bottled water. Are the airlines going to service you on board? The way they have cut back food and drink service recently, seems unlikely. That's why some have brought their own snacks and drinks on planes.


This may become unworkable. The terrorists are causing a lot of disruption even by having their plot discovered, whether they know that now or not.


18 posted on 08/10/2006 12:01:09 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To puncture an aircraft's fuselage would require an explosive charge "half the size of a cigarette packet," he said.

So? Puncturing a hole in the fuselage won't bring down the plane or suck everybody out of it through "explosive decompression". Goldfinger was not a documentary.

There is a real threat, but boneheaded exaggerations like this don't contribute anything to addressing it.

19 posted on 08/10/2006 12:02:01 PM PDT by steve-b ("Creation Science" is to the religous right what "Global Warming" is to the socialist left.)
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Obviously we are happy this was stopped, but the terrorists are still benefiting even when caught. They are depleting our treasury, our energy, raising our costs, hurting us without killing us.

How long can we live this way?

At somepoint it will be time to use our military power to it's full extent.

20 posted on 08/10/2006 12:02:07 PM PDT by Voltage
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