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Explosive Gel Was to Be Concealed in Sports Drink
ABC News. com ^ | 8/10/2006 | Richard Esposito

Posted on 08/10/2006 11:27:23 AM PDT by Sleeping Freeper

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To: raygun

Sorry, I have a sticky keyyyboard.


221 posted on 08/10/2006 4:02:19 PM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel
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To: Howlin
I don't even know what to make of it anymore. They seem to be embedded in every vital "service" we have......they ARE everywhere.


222 posted on 08/10/2006 4:09:41 PM PDT by Thinkin' Gal (As it was in the days of NO...)
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To: Williams
In WW2, headlights were painted black so as not to aid enemy air raids.

Excellent example.

How many accidents, deaths, material damage, and lost efficiency was caused by using blackout lights? Driving that way at night is far more dangerous than not as anyone who has had to drive in blackout mode can tell you.

How does that loss compare to any differences in real damage caused by nominally aiding enemy air raids? That is the real calculus that has to be made before you can declare that one action is more "secure" or "safe" than any other. Unfortunately, in virtually all the cases people who make such rules pull them out of their ass without much thought as to the big picture unintended consequences of such rules. They make assertions of improved safety or security, but they have not done the analysis to make those assertions anything but baseless.

And yes, not being allowed to carry anything onto an airplane has many complicated consequences that very arguably increase the net risk to everyone. I expect policy to be thoughtful, but more often than not it is kneejerk reactionary nonsense that at best solves nothing and more often than not makes things worse.

223 posted on 08/10/2006 4:29:45 PM PDT by tortoise
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To: Howlin
OK, more searching, found this:

Defense attorneys also said the airport and airplane information were old papers left in the car by a relative who worked at an airport.

SNIP

FBI spokesman Mike Brooks in Cincinnati said the case had no link to the alleged plot to blow up U.S.-bound planes that British authorities said they thwarted Thursday.

Here they're tied to Hizbullah, but no specifics:

Two 20-year-old men arrested in Ohio were being held on Thursday on charges of money laundering on behalf of Hizbollah, authorities said.

Still no more info on the airport security/passenger info.

224 posted on 08/10/2006 4:34:04 PM PDT by eyespysomething (There is no such thing as global warming. Chuck Norris was cold, so he turned the sun up.)
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To: tortoise
Tortoise, snap out of it on this one. In WWII the entire world was ablaze with war against totalitarianism. It was a straight out fight for survival with millions killed, civilizations levelled, both sides racing to acquire atomic weapons. There was no time for a risk/ rewards analysis of traffic accidents versus a Japanese or German attack on our mainland. You fought the war for survival and you did everything necessary to win that war.

Car headlights wouldn't just be used to bomb your car. They would guide enemy planes to major cities, military installations, ships at port, bridges, etc. The headlights got blacked out, people didn't drive at night, and we survived as a civilization.

225 posted on 08/10/2006 4:36:54 PM PDT by Williams
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To: theFIRMbss

That's funny...I thought you were some kind of FR beat poet or something...


226 posted on 08/10/2006 5:22:03 PM PDT by xjcsa (The internet is not a truck. It's a series of tubes.)
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To: fortunecookie
What are the odds this ban on personal drinks will become permanent???

CHICAGO/NEW YORK (Reuters) - Tighter restrictions on carry-on luggage, including bans on liquids, will disrupt air travel for at least several days and make it even more of a headache for passengers already sick of crowded planes and long lines, experts said.

U.S. security officials banned passengers from carrying any liquids onto planes after British officials said they foiled a plot to bomb flights to the United States on Thursday.

The new restrictions were sure to cause major disruptions for at least two or three days at airport security checkpoints as screeners scour carry-on bags for drinks, hair gels and lotions, experts said.

"They've got to search everything extremely carefully right now," said Joe Schwieterman, transportation expert at DePaul University. "Any time you impose a new rule there's instant chaos, but things settle down in a few weeks."

227 posted on 08/10/2006 6:06:48 PM PDT by Lunatic Fringe (Man Law: You Poke It, You Own It)
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To: xjcsa
>I thought you were some kind of FR beat poet

Well, I'm not saying
my Friday night won't involve
scenes that look like this . . .











228 posted on 08/11/2006 7:41:13 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: prairiebreeze

Not good. Not good at all. At this point, I have no problem with organizations saying that no Muslims or even Arabs will be given positions in any security position of any kind.


229 posted on 08/11/2006 1:52:58 PM PDT by Peach (Prayers for Israel and all who love her.)
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To: Harrius Magnus

Muslims have had five years to show that they're on our side and support our way of life. Time's up.


230 posted on 08/11/2006 7:42:26 PM PDT by gura
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To: Howlin
They seem to be embedded in every vital "service" we have......they ARE everywhere.

Why What is Happening - Explains the SCOTUS, CHURCH, etc...

...C. Gradual revolution through infiltration & subversion by revolutionaries
......1. Infiltrate the State: elective & appointed office; judgeships
......2. Infiltrate the military: enlist & subvert from within
......3. Infiltrate justice: undermine and discredit state constitutions
......4. Infiltrate education: professors & administrators
......5. Infiltrate & discredit religion: scoundrels as clergymen
......6. Register, then license, then confiscate all privately held weapons


...G. Marxists "must enter into every civil, cultural, and political activity in every nation, leavening them as yeast leavens bread."


Even so, God is still sovereign and hears when repentant hearts pray. God have mercy on America! Amen.

231 posted on 08/16/2006 1:24:50 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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