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To: ohioWfan
You still haven't answered my question as to how 'honor' and 'character' are unrelated.

Go back and re-read your post to me. What you are asking here is not what you said in your original post. You are the one dodging, not me.

How do you divide those two concepts in your mind? (or soul?)

You are the one assuming that I do divide them. I just said that keeping one's pants on ALONE is NOT the ONLY measure of honor.

This is quite possibly the most illogical leap ever perpetrated on this forum, Bad. It's so far from the truth, that there's no way to even address it.

It may be afield from your evolving evasion, but it is exactly on point with your original response. I think that you are spinning so much that you are confusing yourself more than you were to begin with.

So this still doesn't answer my question, because I didn't do what you imagined me to do........

Maybe not what you meant, but certainly what you typed.

It IS however, of note to find out how you completely dismiss morality as part of the equation of conservatism. I suppose that's why you feel free to just make things up as you go in forming your 'arguments' against me. When you deliberately blur what's right and what's wrong, you do whatever you feel like doing, whether it's honest or not.

Please show me where I dismissed morality? I said only that I'd rather he limit who he screws. You are the one justifying the bad acts of Republicans by encouraging their reelection despite those bad acts. Acts which range from anti gun votes, to being pro abortion, to expanding government. You advocate rewarding bad behavior, I don't. But in your mind, that's moral. That's also really rich.

But since you have dismissed morality (don't be so naive as to assume that sex is the only thing involved in being a moral person), we really have no common ground, do we? Because it's the basis of everything I think and do, and you think it's of no value.

You are one delusional woman. I am holding these pols to a higher standard than you. Why is it that you think that you own the moral high ground?

So.........you've made your point, and I understand it.

I believe that's all I want to say to you........ever.

(I would like to know some day, however, if beeler is your little boy, or your girlfriend. You really are attached to the troll.....)

You are a piece of work. Until I posted on this thread, I have never heard his or her name before. I've never seen a post of his/hers. I just didn't like the treatment that he or she was getting from a vicious pack of attack dogs of which you were part. It's not part of my nature to stand by and do nothing when someone is attacked for their opinions.

844 posted on 08/14/2006 1:27:39 PM PDT by Badray (CFR my ass. There's not too much money in politics. There's too much money in government hands.)
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To: Badray
I've gotten to the nub of this by re-reading our entire conversation, Badray.

You believe honor is the equivalent of agreeing with your politics. I believe that it is far deeper than that. Therefore, it is I who hold people to the higher standard, because I do not arrogantly believe that my own political ideology is the highest good, as you do.

I can disagree on issues (and I do) and understand the honor and character of a man (or woman). You cannot, and equate your own politics with morality.

Now, there is really no point in continuing this because our standards of right and wrong are different. Mine are based on God's word, and yours are based on your political views.

Just as a final point...... please point to any post where I attacked your (new) pal, beeler's morality. I called him a troll, which I still believe he is (and got banned for). But I don't believe that I ever called him immoral because he was trashing this thread.

One more thing........you did attack my morality multiple times, and it still won't wash.

As I re read my posts to you, I see that I was quite a bit more civil to you than you deserved from a human perspective. From a spiritual perspective, if I have sinned against you, I ask your forgiveness.

846 posted on 08/14/2006 2:23:33 PM PDT by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraqi Liberation VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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