Pakistani-Born Pilot Sues JetBlue

Newsday.com ^ | August 9, 2006, 7:19 AM EDT | Staff

[tbeatty]

Based on my understanding of Islam, being Muslim should not only be disqualifying for any position that could easily be used to cause a mass casualty incident, but it also raises the unavoidable question of loyalty.

How? Unless this person is affiliated with a terrorist organization which is verfifiable through a background check, it is no different than if he were Jewish or Baptist or Hindu.

The terrorist threat is overwhelmingly muslim but Muslim's are not overwhelmingly terorrists.

The left would like nothing more than to disqualify any religious affiliation. The abortion clinic bomber was fundamentalist Christian so should there be restrictions on Christians? Timothy McVeigh was a veteran so should we have extra scrutiny on veterans and preclude them from certain positions? This is what the left wants. This is what the right should be fighting.

It's the individual who should be barred, not the religion.

[zipper]

I think I know what his interview answer was to this question:

Do you hate America more than you love your children?

[tbeatty]

"No reason"?

Why are you so eager to flirt with disaster?

I'm not, but the left is salivating at the opportunity to use religion as a way to ban participation in any number of occupations. Any thoughts when they try to ban Christian teachers in public schools simply because they are Christian? Don't think this isn't precedent if it stands.

This person needs to stand on his individual choices. If he is associated with terrorist organizations, no way should he ever get a job. In fact, he should be arrested and tried.

But if the whole basis of denying him employment is that he is Muslim, that is wrong. It's evil and despicable and it is better left to the anti-religious nuts on the left. It doesn't need to be defended by Christians. He is an individual and should be judged as such.

[tbeatty]

I think I know what his interview answer was to this question:

Do you hate America more than you love your children? Why do you think he hates america?

[SauronOfMordor]

The terrorists are overwhelmingly Muslims but Muslims are not overwhelmingly terrorists. Even less so when they are American citizens. America is the Melting Pot. We can abosrb Muslim culture and they can take American values. Denying them the basic trust you would afford any other American is a shame.

The fundamental aspect of being an American citizen is that your primary loyalty is to the United States rather than to any foreign power. A member of the psychopathic death cult known as Islam CANNOT acknowledge any higher loyalty than to Islam, and remain a Muslim in good standing

I do not dispute that people from Islamic ethnic backgrounds can walk away from Islam, become secular or choose another religion, and on that basis create the possibility of being loyal Americans

[Centurion2000]

There is no reason why an American citizen whould be denied a job regardless of national origin or religion.

So you're ok with islamics guarding airports, flying jumbo jets over civilian populations and carrying hand grenades around other soldiers and working and translations at sensitive government posts?

Hell maybe we should make some islamic ICBM missile commanders and SAC bomber pilots as well?

[thoughtomator]

How? Unless this person is affiliated with a terrorist organization which is verfifiable through a background check, it is no different than if he were Jewish or Baptist or Hindu.

Because unlike any other major religion, Islam demands a specific political system as well, one which is diametrically opposed to everything the United States stands for, and one which must in its fulfillment necessarily include the destruction of this nation, and all others, to make way for the Caliphate.

[Centurion2000]

We can abosrb Muslim culture and they can take American values.

You really really need to read the Koran. A muslim has no loyalty to ANYTHING other than his demon God.

[tbeatty]

The fundamental aspect of being an American citizen is that your primary loyalty is to the United States rather than to any foreign power.

How many Christians do you know that would put their country above the bible? Muslims have the same attitude about their religion. They have their own personal values. Normally, they don't conflict with politics. Only a small number of radical nutjobs become terrorists. Some political organizations with Islamic countries court young people as recruits.

But this single individual needs to be judged on his individual actions, not hte actions of a number of terrorists.

It scary that so-called conservatives are willing to 1) condemn someone for their religious beliefs and 2) disregard the fundamental principle of individualism. Each person should be judged on their own deed's, not the deeds of others.

OUr enemies are Al Qaeda, Hezbollah, Hamas and others of their ilk. Islam is not our enemy and conservatives, especially, should know the dangers of bainning religions and religious views. Think about that when the left uses your arguments to ban Christians from public school teaching jobs.

[Joan Kerrey]

It's the individual who should be barred, not the religion.

Fact is we really don't have the whole story and I can't imagine an interviewer giving a reason of turn down as religion or national origin. There is more to this.

[MaDeuce]

"Simply being Muslim or of Pakistani descent is not disqualifying. It makes me sick to read those posts that don't seem to get this. It's un-American."

Reasoning like that is what will get real Americans killed.
muslimes are muslimes first, second, and always ... never Americans. And muslimes believe that you convert or be killed ... no middle ground. Remember that ... it may save your life or the lives of your family someday.

[tbeatty]

It's the individual who should be barred, not the religion. Fact is we really don't have the whole story and I can't imagine an interviewer giving a reason of turn down as religion or national origin. There is more to this.

I totally agree. I was upset at the posts here, not the actions of JetBlue (unless JetBlue really did something stupid like base his emplyoment on his religion). It's disgusting to hear people condemn someone for their religious views and question his patriotism because of his religion.

The left is plenty intolerant of religion for the whole country. We don't need to add to their fire.

[rovenstinez]

Could a fight attendant NOT be employed because of excessive weight? Could a pilot NOT get a job because he has epilepsy, or maybe has diabetes and has fainted at any moments. If the guys religious bias is that all the rest of us are infidels and that he needs to do a JIHAD to get his virgens, I think he needs a good paying job as flight attendant, but NOT to give him the controls of an aircraft. Wasn't there some Egyptian pilot that crashed his plane into the see while he invoked Allah?

[MortMan]

How many Bibles do you know of that require the killing of non-believers?

[tbeatty]

Have you not read the Old Testament?

And this is not about the religion, it's about the individual. The left loves to bash fundamentalist Christians and if they had their way, none would have jobs because of their beliefs. Leave the wholesale religious bashing to leftists or Christians may be next. "No religious test" is one of our fundamental founding principles and if you compromise it for religions you don't like, it will be compromised for yours. The left hates ALL religions. Please don't give them ammunition.