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8/10 Middle East Live Thread
Middle East Live Thread ^ | 8/10/06 | BurbankKarl

Posted on 08/09/2006 11:37:26 PM PDT by BurbankKarl

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To: conservativepoet

I'm going to bed before my blood pressure boils over.


1,321 posted on 08/10/2006 7:51:53 PM PDT by del4hope (The LORD will be a refuge for His people-Joel 3:16)
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To: All
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/749477.html

Last update - 05:33 11/08/2006

The Pentagon is worried by Syria's 'rising self-confidence'

By Shmuel Rosner

WASHINGTON - The U.S. administration is troubled by what a senior Defense Department official termed "a rise in Syria's self-confidence."

The official, who spoke with Haaretz Thursday, expressed frustration over the fact that the United States, Israel and the international community have been unable until now to persuade Syrian President Bashar Assad to change his behavior. He attributed this failure to the fact that "thus far, no real pressure has been applied to Syria by any of the parties."

The official, who termed Syria's rising self-confidence "a problem for everyone," said that there had been chances to influence Syria, "but they were missed."

Regarding Israel's decision to leave Syria out of the current fighting in Lebanon, he said: "I don't want to say what my opinion of this decision is."

The Pentagon believes that Syria's influence over events in Lebanon has increased in recent weeks, and the Bush administration is very worried by this, since it viewed Syria's ouster from Lebanon last year as a significant achievement.

The U.S. views Syria as a destabilizing force in the region on three counts: It has not prevented terrorists from entering Iraq via Syria; it has not closed down the Damascus offices of Palestinian rejectionist groups such as Hamas and Islamic Jihad; and it continues to intervene in Lebanon's internal affairs.

In recent weeks, the Bush administration has come under pressure from former senior officials, media pundits and allied diplomats to reopen its dialogue with Syria. Six months ago, the U.S. recalled its ambassador from Damascus and has not yet returned him. But Washington does not want to involve Syria in the current Lebanese crisis without a significant change in its behavior, since, in the words of a senior administration official, "that would be an open invitation to the Syrians to resume interfering in events in Lebanon."

1,322 posted on 08/10/2006 7:52:29 PM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: RouxStir

Just remember...things are not always what they seem to be. Be patient.


1,323 posted on 08/10/2006 7:52:57 PM PDT by RDTF ("We love death. The US loves life. That is the big difference between us two.” Osama Bin laden)
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To: Fitzcarraldo

Updated Aug. 11, 2006 3:11
Lebanon refusing to allow French to enforce mandate

A new obstacle was raised in the approval of the proposed cease-fire agreement between Israel and Lebanon on Thursday night, when the latter was refusing to allow French forces to enforce its mandate by force, if necessary, as allowed by the UN's chapter VII regulations.

Israel Radio reported that attempts were being made to convince Lebanon to agree to the proposal.

If both Lebanon and Israel agree to the proposal, it is expected to brought before the UN Security Council for ratification within 24 hours.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1154525849052&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull


1,324 posted on 08/10/2006 7:53:33 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: RDTF

Notice all the terminology introduced by that administration.

Profiling
Politically Correct
Spin
I did not have s(never mind)
hate crime
transgender (was that a term before them)

What am I forgetting?


1,325 posted on 08/10/2006 7:54:48 PM PDT by del4hope (The LORD will be a refuge for His people-Joel 3:16)
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To: RouxStir

No, the US gave them more then enough cover to do whatever they wanted. If the outcome is as you say, its not the fault of the US.


1,326 posted on 08/10/2006 7:54:55 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: RDTF

"Just remember...things are not always what they seem to be. Be patient."

I don't know of any other time in my life that I really would like to be wrong...and would be happy to shout it from the rooftops if I am wrong.


1,327 posted on 08/10/2006 7:55:12 PM PDT by RouxStir (Refreshingly Offensive, with Hints of Cohiba and Auchentoshen.)
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To: del4hope

don't ask don't tell


1,328 posted on 08/10/2006 7:55:32 PM PDT by RDTF ("We love death. The US loves life. That is the big difference between us two.” Osama Bin laden)
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To: Fitzcarraldo

"Regarding Israel's decision to leave Syria out of the current fighting in Lebanon, he said: "I don't want to say what my opinion of this decision is."

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Interesting...US position


1,329 posted on 08/10/2006 7:56:48 PM PDT by conservativepoet
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To: varmintxer
Malcolm Hoenlein: French position changing, now saying Israel does not have to make a full withdrawal under a ceasefire. Arab League members have inserted themselves into the security council demanding to be heard and demanding a veto. Batchelor says this is the AL who have done nothing in Dafur(sp) or other areas. Goes on to say Egypt, Jordan and SA are unstable, don't want a Hizbollah victory, as it will further destabilize those countries, making them susceptible to an Islamic style revolution.
1,330 posted on 08/10/2006 7:56:58 PM PDT by CedarDave
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To: RDTF

civil union


1,331 posted on 08/10/2006 7:57:09 PM PDT by del4hope (The LORD will be a refuge for His people-Joel 3:16)
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To: CedarDave

does he mention how that is going to be accomplished?


1,332 posted on 08/10/2006 7:57:14 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: Fitzcarraldo
"He attributed this failure to the fact that "thus far, no real pressure has been applied to Syria by any of the parties."

No sh!t Sherlock.

Wish I could get on the DOD's payroll and provide brilliant assessments like that.

1,333 posted on 08/10/2006 7:57:40 PM PDT by 2111USMC
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To: CedarDave

I really like Gen. McInerny...and boy is Batchelor on fire tonight..

I think he must have gone through the same emotions we did today...up, down, up, down...he sounds fed up like we do also.


1,334 posted on 08/10/2006 7:58:53 PM PDT by Txsleuth ((((((((ISRAEL)))))))))
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To: del4hope

Definition of "is"


1,335 posted on 08/10/2006 7:59:16 PM PDT by 2111USMC
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To: del4hope

Monica, paula, Gennifer


1,336 posted on 08/10/2006 7:59:40 PM PDT by RDTF ("We love death. The US loves life. That is the big difference between us two.” Osama Bin laden)
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To: 2111USMC; All

I guess we could start an entire thread on Clintonisms. Looks like I may have hijacked the thread. Sorry.


1,337 posted on 08/10/2006 8:01:02 PM PDT by del4hope (The LORD will be a refuge for His people-Joel 3:16)
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To: Txsleuth

Hey Tx, if you're still here, could you tell me the latest on the ME?? I've been away for several hours and too weary to go thru all the posts... TIA!!

Mary


1,338 posted on 08/10/2006 8:01:07 PM PDT by angelwings49 (Where are we going, and why am I in this handbasket??)
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To: sageb1

I am sorry...I didn't mean to offend anyone by shortening his name.


1,339 posted on 08/10/2006 8:01:29 PM PDT by Txsleuth ((((((((ISRAEL)))))))))
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To: RDTF
....things are not always what they seem to be. Be patient.

My thoughts also. No reason running around screaming, the sky is falling, the sky is falling.

I personally think the diplomacy being so talked about is just for show. President Bush and Mr. Blair know Lebanon/Hezzies are not going to agree to a staunch peace-keeping force be it French or the Quakers.

It's just their way of saying, heh guys, we tried that diplomacy stuff and look who doesn't agree. President Bush and Mr. Blair have not put their entire careers on the line, rightfully, on the WOT to let the Hezzies regroup and rearm.

1,340 posted on 08/10/2006 8:01:57 PM PDT by Chuck54
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