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Behind Story: Tense Diplomatic Exchanges Between N. Korea And China (mutual dissing contest)
Yonhap News ^ | 08/08/06 | Chung Juho

Posted on 08/09/2006 7:56:09 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

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Behind Story: Tense Diplomatic Exchanges Between N. Korea And China (After Security Council Resolution)

N. Korean Ambassador waited out for 2 hours at China's Foreign Ministry...China's Vice Premier waited out for 6 hours in Pyongyang

(Hong Kong = Yonhap News) Chung Juho Correspondent: N. Korean government vehemently protested at China, conveying their outrage, after UN Security Council passed a resolution against N. Korea in July 15, according to reports.

Zheng-ming, a monthly news magazine in Hong Kong, reported on Aug. 8 in its latest edition, tense diplomatic moments between N. Korea and China, right after the resolution against N. Korea is passed, with China approving. It included how N. Korea rebuffed Hui Liang-yu, Vice Premier of China who came to Pyongyang.

First, after China cast its vote in favor of the resolution, N. Korean Foreign Ministry swiftly called in Wu Dong-he, Chinese Ambassador to N. Korea in Pyongyang in early morning of July 16, lodging strong protest against Chinese government.

Kim Kye-kwan, N. Korea's Deputy Foreign Minister said, "It is shocking to N. Korean Worker's Party and government that Chinese government betrayed our trust. China should give us an explanation on similar events in the future."

On the same morning in Beijing, Choi Jin-soo, N. Korean Ambassador to China, demanded a face-to-face meeting with Chinese Foreign Minister, Li Zhao-xing, to convey words of protest to Chinese government, but Chinese Foreign Ministry turned it down, replying that Li is busy with some important engagement.

Undeterred, eleven diplomats including Ambassador Choi, his Counsel, Military Attache, and other diplomats came to the Foreign Ministry building in three cars. The Ministry refused to take them in, citing they did not get any instructions(on the matter.) N. Koreans had a stand-off for 2 hours in front of the building before they left.

According to Zheng-ming, there is a good reason why China changed its position in 8 days, which was originally against the resolution.

On July 11, N. Korea dispatched to Beijing Yang Hyung-sup, Vice Chairman of Executive Council of Supreme People's Assembly, and he gave Kim Jong-il's letter to President Hu which contained the N. Korea's position on missile issue, 6-party talks, and current political situation, and also the request for increased Chinese aids.

North Korea's demand is that Chinese aids be increased from 12 billion yuan(approx. 1.5 billion dollars) to 30 billion yuan (approx. 3.75 billion dollars.) 10 billion yuan should be provided in energy, food, and light industry products, another 10 billion yuan in hard currency, and the remaining 10 billion yuan should be set aside for items N. Korea can choose at its discretion.

Around the same time, China also sent Vice Premier Hui and Vice Foreign Minister Wu Da-wei to Pyongyang, and they were to explain China's position directly to Kim Jong-il.

President Hu, upon meeting Vice Chairman Yang(of N. Korea,) focused on explaining China's position rather than talking over aid request. He said:

First, the denuclearization of Korean Peninsula is China's principal position, it is advantageous to N. Korea's development, regional stability, and garnering of international support. If it fails, Japan may use it as an excuse to develop nuclear weapons, and revive militarism.

Second, only by actively participating six-party talks, N. Korea could accomplish its goals.

Third, N. Korea should not shy away from establishing stable and mutually trusting relationship with S. Korea

If N. Korea accept these three conditions, we can give N. Korea aids in energy, transportation, and food to help N. Korea's economic development.

This is what President Hu said to Vice Chairman Yang.

However, N. Koreans interpreted Hu's remarks as de-facto rejection of their aid request.

In the end, Kim Jong-il decided to refuse a meeting with Vice Premier Hui who was visiting N. Korea. Hui waited for 6 hours at a guest house, and was told that the meeting with Kim Jong-il was cancelled because Kim was out to inspect military units. She returned to Beijing on July 15.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
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North Korea's demand is that Chinese aids be increased from 12 billion yuan(approx. 1.5 billion dollars) to 30 billion yuan (approx. 3.75 billion dollars.) 10 billion yuan should be provided in energy, food, and light industry products, another 10 billion yuan in hard currency, and the remaining 10 billion yuan should be set aside for items N. Korea can choose at its discretion.

What a gall! A starving pan-handler acting as if he owns the whole place.:)

1 posted on 08/09/2006 7:56:13 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster
IMHO, this is all haggling for show.

All warfare is deception. Sun Tsu

2 posted on 08/09/2006 7:57:59 PM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: TigerLikesRooster; AmericanInTokyo; OahuBreeze; yonif; risk; Steel Wolf; nuconvert; MizSterious; ...

Ping!


3 posted on 08/09/2006 7:59:15 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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Also: before the meeting the representative of side A had eaten a lot of onions and garlic [chased by stale beer to amplify the natural belch] while the representative of side B employed a silent but deadly mode of gas attack...


4 posted on 08/09/2006 8:00:33 PM PDT by GSlob
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"President Hu, upon meeting Vice Chairman Yang(of N. Korea,) focused on explaining China's position rather than talking over aid request. He said:

First, the denuclearization of Korean Peninsula is China's principal position, it is advantageous to N. Korea's development, regional stability, and garnering of international support. If it fails, Japan may use it as an excuse to develop nuclear weapons, and revive militarism.

Second, only by actively participating six-party talks, N. Korea could accomplish its goals.

Third, N. Korea should not shy away from establishing stable and mutually trusting relationship with S. Korea

If N. Korea accept these three conditions, we can give N. Korea aids in energy, transportation, and food to help N. Korea's economic development."

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Gee, I guess the chinese have decided an out-of-control, nuclear-armed Kim Jong-il is not such a good thing after all.


5 posted on 08/09/2006 8:00:46 PM PDT by sinanju
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To: TigerLikesRooster

See my post number 2.


6 posted on 08/09/2006 8:01:15 PM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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I wonder if they are still keeping the trains that China sends aid in on and sending the crews back on foot?


7 posted on 08/09/2006 8:03:25 PM PDT by Uriah_lost (http://www.wingercomics.com/d/20051205.html)
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Well, but Kim Jong-il is not a good team player. He may be useful for a while, but his usefulness is nearing its end.

If China still hangs on N. Korea as it is, it is actually a good for us. It will become a grenade exploding in its face.

8 posted on 08/09/2006 8:04:30 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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Kim Jong-il loves to have upper-hand. Once he gets hold of it, he won't release until he has 10 times more in return.

9 posted on 08/09/2006 8:05:24 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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...or a grenade to toss at us and South Korea when the PRC feels the time is right. Could work either way.


10 posted on 08/09/2006 8:05:59 PM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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It is my observation that the one thing that works on both the Chinese Govt. and the Kim Jong-il, is public humiliation. Neither one can stand "losing face". When I heard the story about the trains, I thought that publicizing the story would be a good way to drive a wedge between the two.
11 posted on 08/09/2006 8:09:32 PM PDT by Uriah_lost (http://www.wingercomics.com/d/20051205.html)
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That is possible. However, they may not know when the grenade explodes. I could agree that they are keeping it to throw at us, but now that the grenade is unstable, it cannot choose the best timing and circumstance to throw it.

It could go off while still in their pocket.

12 posted on 08/09/2006 8:11:57 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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"What a gall! A starving pan-handler acting as if he owns the whole place.:)"

North Korea has obviously been taking lessons from the liberals in America.
13 posted on 08/09/2006 8:12:40 PM PDT by Jameison
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I'm thinking China may have realized that they have a bottle of warm nitroglycerin in their hand instead of a grenade....I can't change what's happening there by myself so I might as well remain hopeful and keep voting for people that might do some good.


14 posted on 08/09/2006 8:13:07 PM PDT by Uriah_lost (http://www.wingercomics.com/d/20051205.html)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Great minds obviously think alike.


15 posted on 08/09/2006 8:14:07 PM PDT by Uriah_lost (http://www.wingercomics.com/d/20051205.html)
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Re #11

Yes, public humiliation is an effective tool against them. Both live on pride. Of course, N. Korea is more extreme. Slight on their perceived image is something they cannot stand. Many have misconception that this is mere public posturing, not substantive. However, it has a lot more substance in it than many realize.

16 posted on 08/09/2006 8:15:11 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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:):)

17 posted on 08/09/2006 8:16:47 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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Wonder if they'll nuke one another? If so, Wal-Mart stores will be empty within a week.


18 posted on 08/09/2006 8:23:38 PM PDT by BW2221
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I might as well remain hopeful and keep voting for people that might do some good.

Amen...and that is something all of us can and should do...along with praying to God and living worthy of His guidance and blessing as a people.

19 posted on 08/09/2006 8:50:04 PM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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What?

He sounds like one of the homeless I ran across in Songtan. I started to give the man a big handfull of change and he flat out stated that the money was not enough, that he required more.

So I put the money back in my pocket and walked off.

It seems that Kim Jong-Il and the homeless man in Songtan illustrate an ingrained behavior typical of the Korean people...


20 posted on 08/09/2006 10:49:54 PM PDT by gogogodzilla (I criticize everyone... and then breath some radioactive fire and stomp on things.)
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